Talk:Sfântu Gheorghe, Transylvania
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[edit]I added the history info from the German interlang link, which seems to have taken its info from this link. Olessi 30 June 2005 00:41 (UTC).
Danube Delta
[edit]There is also a village named Sfantu Gheorghe in the Danube Delta. It is at the Black Sea coast, at the most southern branch of the Danube. In this small and remote village there is a remarkably large cinema-resort, which is home to the annual Anonimul International Independent Film Festival. The village is only to be reached with a min. 2 hour boat trip from Tulcea. --145.99.202.92 23:20, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
Requested move 14 September 2024
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Sfântu Gheorghe, Transylvania → Sfântu Gheorghe – This page was moved unilaterally after 20 years. I contend it should be moved back, because this is the primary topic. This Sfântu Gheorghe is a city and a county seat, the others are villages. If we must disambiguate, the proper target is “Sfântu Gheorghe, Covasna”, because Transylvania is not an extant administrative unit. Biruitorul Talk 15:40, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support. There is no such thing as "Sfântu Gheorghe, Transylvania", only the city of Sfântu Gheorghe, in Covasna County, Romania (plus some communes and villages by the same name here and there) — the only such city by this exact same name. What's next, move the Paris page to Paris, France, in order to avoid possible confusion with Paris, Texas? OK, I'm exaggerating a bit, but still. Turgidson (talk) 00:09, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support per Biruitorul and Turgidson. I've interacted with Stickhandler before. Mostly good edits but they do not seem to understand the concept of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Stickhandler, if a topic with a certain name is much more popular or well-known than other topics with the same name, it is considered that it does not need any disambiguation. Even if it did, the correct procedure would be to request a formal move (WP:RM) or to initiate a discussion on the talk page.
- Stickhandler, you had already messed up when moving Ion Creangă, the clear primary topic, without discussion. I made it be moved back but there is now over a hundred of indirect links due to the move you made because other editors instantly disambiguate the links of an article with many incoming links (without checking if there might be an explanation for there suddenly being hundreds of links needing disambiguation, Onel5969). And now you have created the same situation again, which someone will have to clean up. Stickhandler, may you please follow Wikipedia procedures and stop moving pages without discussion? There might be a reason why they've kept the same name in a project with millions of users for decades, don't you think? Super Ψ Dro 10:32, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - standards for city pages are to include a modifier, if needed. There are other locations in Romania with this name, so a dab may be warranted. The name of the target, however, as pointed out by Turgidson, is problematic, and probably would be more appropriate to be Sfântu Gheorghe, Covasna County. I did not find the move problematic, and it was reviewed by an NPPer, BoyTheKingCanDance.Onel5969 TT me 10:38, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sfântu Gheorghe: 2130 views in the last 30 days. Sfântu Gheorghe, Tulcea: 128; Sfântu Gheorghe, Ialomița: 18; Iernut (from now on the villages don't even have their own pages but redirect to the commune they belong to): 166; Băneasa, Giurgiu: 28; Crevedia Mare: 30; Sfântu Gheorghe branch: 142. The move is problematic, and the former name is not, as this town is the clear primary topic. Super Ψ Dro 10:51, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Any reason you prefer Sfântu Gheorghe, Covasna County when we currently have Belin, Covasna, Bixad, Covasna, Bodoc, Covasna, Catalina, Covasna, Cernat, Covasna, Mereni, Covasna, Turia, Covasna, Vâlcele, Covasna and Valea Mare, Covasna — all without “County”? Biruitorul Talk 12:32, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, no. Simply putting Covasna would definitely work. Right now, that exists, but points to the dab page, so we could simply retarget. Onel5969 TT me 16:39, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support. Totally clear PRIMARYTOPIC. Too bad we have to waste time here instead of a revert undiscussed move. FromCzech (talk) 17:41, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support - If not back to Sfântu Gheorghe, it should at least be Sfântu Gheorghe, Covasna. LaUr3nTiU (talk) 20:33, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support -- the "Transylvania" move frankly makes no sense, and any "Covasna" addition seems just as redundant. Dahn (talk) 17:44, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Though idk why the nom didn't simply revert the move themselves or did so via WP:RM/TR as a page can have the title reverted provided it was only at that title for a short while (up to a year) per WP:RMUM.