Talk:Shiny Suit Theory

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:45, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

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[[File:|120px|Jay Electronica ]]

Jay Electronica

• ... that Jay-Z sent his verse for the song "Shiny Suit Theory" by email as an effort to sign Jay Electronica (pictured) to his record label Roc Nation?
  • ALT1:... that "Shiny Suit Theory", the lead single for Jay Electronica's (pictured) debut album A Written Testimony, was released ten years before the album's release?
  • ALT2:... that the song "Shiny Suit Theory" was the result of a chance meeting between Jay Electronica (pictured) and Jay-Z at a birthday party?

• Reviewed: Fennec Shand

Created by Nice4What (talk). Self-nominated at 18:58, 18 March 2020 (UTC).

• Article meets newness and length requirements, QPQ is completed. Well sourced for a relatively short article. I don't feel like the picture would work particularly well on the main page, and after all is not of the article's subject, but its artist. Also, I think the first hook is problematic in that it doesn't make sense to the lay reader: why does the fact a verse was sent by email have any relation to an attempt at a label signing? I would say that ALT1 is interesting with the ten year delay and makes the reader want to know why and click further. However, neither source [7] nor [12] mention the 2010 release, if indeed uploading onto SoundCloud counts as a single release (I don't know).
  So, the only hook I can support at the moment is ALT2, which is sufficiently engaging and supported directly by a source, but like I say, I prefer without the photograph. Rcsprinter₁₂₃ (blab) 20:24, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Inclusion of Arabic in the lede

I removed the Arabic translation of the song title from the lede because I couldn't see any reason for it, but Nice4What reverted me with the reasoning "Read the article and it becomes clear as to why it's included...". Well, I don't know much about the topic and might just be missing something obvious, but I have read the article a second time now and still don't see any connection to Arabic or the Arabic-speaking world whatsoever. Even from looking into the associated articles, the closest thing to a connection I can find is that Jay Electronica is a member of the Nation of Islam, but that's really not much of a connection to Arabic at all - MOS:FORLANG is pretty vague about when to include translations, but that seems on the level of including Hebrew translations of Drake song titles just because he's Jewish, which we obviously don't do. So...please explain? -Elmer Clark (talk) 21:51, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

@Elmer Clark: The song title was stylized in Arabic for A Written Testimony promotion. The inclusion of the translation has nothing to do with the fact that Electronica is a member of the NOI. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 21:53, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Ah, ok, that makes a lot more sense. Thanks for adding the clarifying edit. -Elmer Clark (talk) 22:42, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

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