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Move discussion in progress

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There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Southeastern (train operating company) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 06:32, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lead Image

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Can anyone find a lead image for the infobox that was taken since Southeastern (latest incarnation) commenced operation in November 2021? There's a couple of 707 images from the month before but i cannot see any more recent. It would be nice to be 100% factually correct even if nothing fundamentally changed with the rolling stock between the two companies. 10mmsocket (talk) 15:58, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Updating of Images in the Rolling Stock table

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My intention was to update the previous photos with more engaging, cleaner and brighter photos than what was there before. Some of the photos before my edit was made, were either in poor lighting conditions or alternatively were blurry for example the Class 375 and Class 377. Again, following on from my talk section on the Thameslink Southern Great Northern page, I've had to carefully choose which photos to use and so again if we could come to an agreement with which photos are inferior and those that aren't that would be very grateful. Maxopolitan (talk) 19:15, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cannon Street Loop clarity

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@Aaroncrudge and SeagullHD: I'd like to let you know that you both are approaching an edit war on the service table issue of clarity on one of the routes and must discuss the issue here. Do we need the clarity, yes or no? Jalen Folf (talk) 19:16, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My response is that the via points relating to the route served are displayed on all routes in the table and therefore it is important to ensure consistency across all services in the table. The second via point is to differentiate between the two different services on the same overall route and my view is that both are therefore required and important both for clarity and consistency sake. Aaroncrudge (talk) 13:12, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I never cared much to begin with and that claim that we were approaching an edit war wasn't true. SeagullHD (talk) 13:52, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

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There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Southeastern (train operating company 2006–2021)#Requested move 16 February 2024 which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.

I forgot to tag this for moving but if that is successful, will be renamed to Southeastern (2021). JuniperChill (talk) 13:26, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 23 February 2024

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. – robertsky (talk) 15:18, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Southeastern (train operating company)Southeastern (train operating company, 2021–) – Per WP:PDAB. See Southeastern (train operating company 2006–2021). 162 etc. (talk) 16:24, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose. The current train operating company is very clearly the primary topic over its predecessor - WP:PDAB is just an informative supplement to a guideline, but even if we accept that dubious basis for a nomination as relevant, a simple BEFORE would have shown that its standards are met. Thryduulf (talk) 20:32, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps you can explain why it is "very clearly" the primary topic? Southeastern (train operating company 2006–2021) appears just as notable to me. 162 etc. (talk) 22:22, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is no less notable as a concept, but it is not the primary topic for train operating companies named "Southeastern". If someone is searching for or linking to this title they are expecting the current operator not one that ceased to exist three years ago. Evidence: Look do a BEFORE search, identify what proportion of sources published since October 2021 refer to each company as "Southeastern" without qualification. Thryduulf (talk) 22:36, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds like WP:RECENTISM to me. 162 etc. (talk) 22:59, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
RECENTISM is about article content and not really relevant here. What matters is which article people are looking for now, and the evidence from my searches is that, in the context of train operating companies, it is overwhelmingly this article. Thryduulf (talk) 23:57, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.