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Congratulations on a DYK!

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  • In this application, all of Kings Square was said to have been given to the Church of England,[4] though in later years this was seen to be debatable.
It's not really clear what this means. It seems to be saying that at the time of the application, the church authorities presumed that they already owned the whole site, and merely needed permission to build upon it. Is this the case, and if so, can it be made clearer?
  • The map. I find these maps totally superfluous and an impediment to putting in more useful information. You have the coordinates which, when clicked, bring up any number of good and useful maps. The small, and unclickable, map is a mere frustration as if anyone tries to use it, the information disappears. It is more hindrance than help. So editors like them. I would much rather have a photo of the interior or the stained glass than an essentially useless map.
  • Description. Say something like:
The church is of Latin Cross plan with a projecting chancel to the east, and several vestries. It is built in the English Decorated Gothic style, of local limestone in rubble courses and with buttresses and details of ashlar masonry. The west front has a rose window and a row of identical lancet windows above a projecting porch. There is a small bell-turret (?) (where exactly is it located?) The interior has a Jarrah roof and fittings of (whatever) wood.

The info about the Decorated Gothic and the Jarrah comes fro the organ website. The rest of it merely describes what is in the photographs.

  • Details. Mention the font, the pulpit and the lectern, if they are notable. Are they wood, marble, brass etc?

Amandajm (talk) 02:14, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the congratulations! You have some good points here but this is not my article although obviously they are my mistakes! Do feel free to just add stuff about the pulpit etc. and add to the description. The pulpit does not need to be notable just mentionable .... and a number of sources do mention it. I think your views on the map are intriguing. Good to see you have the confidence to delete these things and look forward to an interior picture..... I couldnt find one. So ... just do it Victuallers (talk) 07:26, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm a t'othersider. I am not in a position to take a photo or write about the font. Someone who has access to the church will have to do that!
Re maps: in architectural articles (which I write all the time) they are the bane of my existence. There is a Wikipedia policy that one doesn't double up on information that is better dealt with at another source. That other source, in this case, is the coordinates.
Amandajm (talk) 13:19, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm a t'othersider too:-) I agree that the map that you get by clicking on the map in 1000% better than the map picture. On the other hand I worked out where Fremantle was by seeing that map. Ideally "someone" would create a map that was both "in article" and with a good wadge of functionality. Cheers Victuallers (talk) 14:07, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]