Talk:Survivor Philippines season 1

Interested in being one of the castaways

I'm interested in joining. I wonder what will it take to be one of the castaways? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Monzonda (talk • contribs)

Hi. This isn't the place. Go google search a message board or something; Wikipedia talk pages are for discussion of the article they attached to, not how one would get their name in the article. -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 08:53, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry my bad!!!! Monzonda^talk 03:06, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Adding auditon dates

I've added the audition dates and places a couple of days ago. And I'm planning to write an article about the auditions but it was removed. May I ask someone to enlighten me as to why it was removed? I'm planning to write something about the auditions that will take place here in the Philippines specially the differences between the process here and in the U.S. Version. . Monzonda^talk 03:10, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Because the list of audition dates is considered advertising under WP:ADS, according to the Dark Lord Trombonator. It will be better to just mention that the auditions for the show were held all over the Philippines during the month of May. Each of the US seasons of Survivor never even listed their audition venues. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 03:22, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I got it now! Thanks! How about the differences between the process of the U.S. Version and the Philippines version is that ok to write about?Monzonda^talk 04:51, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Sure, that could have a section in this article (not an article for itself, though!). Survivor 10: The Caribbean has a section of differences between the Israeli and US editions. Just make sure that you cite your sources, otherwise it's considered Original Research. -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 07:21, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I have added the auditions places and venues without the dates and I also added it a day after the auditions were held. Hope it's ok now.Monzonda c",) 00:01, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I think that will be OK. How about the difference in auditions between the US and the Philippines, did you find any? - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 02:28, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I was able to get info on how they implement the auditions in the U.S., But I have have no sources yet on the Philippine version. I did audition for Survivor Philippines, but that would be considered Original Research. So I'm still searching. Monzonda c",) 02:47, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Good work, Monzonda. I did remove the information about which cities exactly; I think that is slightly trivial. The US seasons, if we are to use them as a benchmark, do not list audition cities. -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 08:38, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Survivor Philippines and Survivor: Gabon

I may know about Survivor Philippines will air this year. I may think Survivor: Gabon will be premiere on Q by September 19 after the last three seasons aired on Solar Entertainment Corporation. -- 12:38, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure, but the some sources say it will be airing in August. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 12:46, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Really?? on Q.. filming will begin on July 21 and will end on August 29 on Ko Tarutao, Thailand. It will premiere on September 08, 2008 (Monday) on GMA Telebabad. Monday to Friday..—Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.69.17.68 (talk • contribs) 15:27, July 21, 2008 (UTC)

the premiere was moved to september 15, 2008.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DiRkdARyL (talk • contribs) 13:45, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Koh Lanta: Caramoan

PEP.ph is wrong. It is the (French) Survivor version that filmed on Caramoan, Camarines Sur last summer and it is not Survivor Philippines nor Survivor 17 (US). —Preceding unsigned comment added by DiRkdARyL (talk • contribs) 03:09, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

is it okay to add the Survivor template here??

??

Yes it is, as the Survivor template has now gone international. Please sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~) so other editors know who's posting which questions. -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 10:29, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

tribe coLors..

RED	BLUE
Naak	Jarakay

suggest a cLoser coLor match for the buff.. thanks.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DiRkdARyL (talk • contribs) 09:13, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

I like the colours, but have no idea how close a match they are. Use them for now and if someone thinks otherwise they'll change them. We had a discussion like this on some other season's talk page, and people had arguments coz their monitor colours differed from one another :/ -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 10:29, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Can we use paler colors? –Howard the Duck 04:42, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I have yet to determine the buff colors. The colors in the article right now are based from the tribal flags, which are clearly blue and red, only slightly darker.-上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs

So far, I'm leaning towards these colors. But I'm still not sure it this is near to the buff colors.-上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 06:50, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

#FF4646	#6487FF
Naak	Jarakay

the fader is ok.. buffs and tribal flag has different shades..diRkdARyL ♫ (talk) 03:18, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I'll be using the colors below. I'll be changing them in a minute. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 05:06, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

#FF4646	#6487FF
Naak	Jarakay

Merged Tribe

#9370DB
Merged Tribe

diRkdARyL ♫ (talk) 09:19, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Are you sure? Let's wait for tonight to confirm that. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 11:02, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me, the merged tribe color changed as lighter:

#B670DB
Merged Tribe

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.96.104.189 (talk) 14:35, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

'The Game' Section..

Week no.	Air date	Challenges		Eliminated	Vote	Finish
		Reward	Immunity
01	September 152008 to September 192008
02	September 222008 to September 262008

reactions?? comments?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DiRkdARyL (talk • contribs) 09:39, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Will episode titles be used in this edition of Survivor? If yes, then this could potentially be problematic as we'd need to fit 5-7 titles in each box o_O. But this is good. Please sign your comments and save SineBot a job or two. -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 10:31, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

oh i'm so sorry.. that's why everytime i edit a talk page, there is always a SineBot after me on the history.. diRkdARyL ♫ (talk) 05:42, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

there are episode titles.. episode01--"the game begins??"" ep02--"camp pasaway".. what are we supposed to do in the 'the game' section??diRkdARyL ♫ (talk) 10:20, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

We can (a) not include them, (b) put them all in the table, or (c) make a list of episode titles. I'd lean towards option (a), as they really are a trivial part of the show. If there are challenges in every episode then obviously we will need to sort that out too. Right now, I recommend just waiting for a bit to see what happens. After all, there's only been one out of thirty episodes aired. Give it time. -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 10:51, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Survivor Philippines (Season 02)

it was mentioned by Paolo Bediones during the plug of Survivor Philippines.. he said that the 2nd season of the show will be next year.. can i add this info on the info box?

so that the info box will look like this..

{{Infobox Television Survivor
| season_name = Survivor Philippines
| image = NonFreeImageRemoved.svg
| caption = <!--Logo of Survivor Philippines-->
| first_aired =  [[September 15]], [[2008]]
| last_aired = 
| filming_started = [[July 21]], [[2008]]
| filming_completed = [[August 29]], [[2008]]
| location = [[Ko Tarutao]], [[Satun Province]], [[Thailand]]<ref name="Thailand">{{cite web |url=http://nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/read.php?newsid=30077377|title=Survivor reality show shooting on Tarutao will not affect environment: deputy governor}}</ref>
| winner = 
| host = [[Paolo Bediones]]
| final_vote = 
| number_survivors = 18
| number_days = 39
| number_episodes = 
| previous_season = 
| next_season = Survivor Philippines 2
| tribes = <b><font color="DA3333">Naak</font><br><font color="1E90FF">Jarakay</font></b>
}}

any reactions?? comments?? diRkdARyL ♫ (talk) 09:27, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, not now. Until there is a real confirmation, especially after this season is over, let's not assume anything. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 11:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. Generally, it's not safe to assume a reality TV program is being made until casting applications are being accepted. When they go out, we can change the infobox. -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 23:42, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Even there's a reference already, we can't put the secon season? [[1]] Celester Mejia talk 20:09, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

"Paolo Bediones hopes Survivor Philippines will have 2nd season". Emphasis mine. Nowhere in that article that says there's sure to be a second season. –Howard the Duck 13:10, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Huhuhu! I'm sorry. T_T Celester Mejia talk 21:12, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Like come on, it's on the title for Chris' sake. –Howard the Duck 13:17, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

No. As far as I know, it wasn't titled like that the first time. Maybe they changed it. Celester Mejia talk 22:12, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Tribe Names

Question: do the tribe names have the accents etc over some of the vowels as seen on the TV show? If that does happen, then we should use this spelling throughout the article, not just in the first instance. Obviously, as someone not in the Philippines, I can't verify this. -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 21:13, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I think the accents should be removed. They are never used in the show. Starczamora (talk) 15:54, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Before your response, I went ahead and removed the accents. I went with my better judgement because, as you said, they were never used in the show. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 17:33, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

JC's Vote

Hey, I'll just ask, how did you know who JC voted for, I didn't see his vote in the last part of the friday show. Do you have some references or websites to get that info? Can you please tell me, or cite it here, plsss... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ja 1207 (talk • contribs)

It can be assumed that the score is 8-1 because there were only two names involved. And the site says that it was unanimous as well. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 02:55, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Plus, Paolo Bediones himself confirmed it on Pinoy Exchange (refer here). Starczamora (talk) 14:43, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Sentence Revision

Can someone please rephrase or revise this sentence:

"He said this amid reports that a showbiz-oriented website published the alleged results of the said Final Tribal Council after two of the show's staff were overheard in a coffee shop about the show's outcome." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.33.24.46 (talk) 01:50, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Spoiler about the second Jury member.

I am not very pleased with the person who wrote about the second Jury member and the one whose supposed to be eliminated in Today's Tribal Council. As everyone who watched Survivor Philippines today DO KNOW THAT IT IS A HANGING ENDING and that evicted person (between Kiko and Marlon) would only be known on Monday's episode. Even if you may say that the person written in the space for the 10th voted out/2nd jury member is correct, still you posted a spoiler.

Consider your actions first before writing anything here in Wikipedia. Spoilerific Information erased.

SPrhapsodos (talk) 14:47, 7 November 2008 (UTC) comment added by SPrhapsodos (talk • contribs) 14:43, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't know about that person, I've reverted everything. We must never assume everything. If you can do it, revert the incorrect info. I've also warned him, although it is already too late to do so. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 14:59, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Was the edit "correct"? Like the anon really knew who was going to be voted off. –Howard the Duck 04:07, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't know how the anon got the info, but it is still a spoiler and should not even be posted even a minute before the show started. That like presuming the outcome. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 04:51, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

It can't be a spoiler if it's incorrect. Unless of course TPTB themselves did it. –Howard the Duck 12:22, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

"TPTB"? Who's that? But I say again, he shouldn't have done so for the benefit of everyone else even a minute before the episode starts. He doesn't even provide a source. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 12:40, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

The powers that be. It was a good idea to revert it though, it was most probably a vandal. We can cite WP:OR. –Howard the Duck 13:26, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Week # changed to "Cycle #" for "The Game" and "Tribal Council #" for "Voting History"

i'm thinking of the editor changing the week# in "The Game" and "Voting History" tables to appropriate ones, to avoid many grey/blank spaces...which isn't visually attractive...

apparently, GMA/Survivor production staff don't follow a finished cycle every week (e.g the double elimination and this week's TC), sometimes, to add suspense to the viewers and to attract them too...

i am thinking of changing the week# in "the game" page into a number of cycles, so the browsers of the page would easily cope up with the game.

the same with the week# in the "voting history" changed into a number of tribal councils

as for the air date, it can be considered.

PS: sorry for the bad grammar, not much of an English speaker here --Ja 1207 (talk) 13:34, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Tribal Council # should remain as is. The result of the cliffhanger should be last week's Week number. –Howard the Duck 13:47, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't think so. In the American seasons, the vote results are separated by episode since theirs is a weekly affair. It's not the case here. I only judge by when the full result was announced, not on what cycle. Take the case of Gigit and Patani's elimination. The two were eliminated on the same night, but Gigit's was aired at the end of Week 3 and Patani's happened on Monday of week 4. Technically, they happened on the same cycle. And that will cause some confusion. So for now, let's keep everything as they are. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 12:38, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

yes, you have a point, but the browsers would have a hard time identifying what happened to who, just like in patani's case, she was eliminated but there was no cycle before her on "the game" table??, the viewers would question that, maybe you should put a note that she was eliminated in a double elimination...another example, as with this week's cycle, who was eliminated on week8?? why was "marlon or kiko" (i think this is confirmed bcoz paolo said the 2nd jury member on friday's episode) eliminated on week9 without a cycle before him?? though logic would answer the questions, i think it would be best if they would be combined to avoid confusion...--Ja 1207 (talk) 13:06, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Let the section "the game" and its weekly subsections speak for themselves. And the American version (which is our standard) never uses the word "cycle," so don't emphasize the word or use even it. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 13:22, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Cycle? That's America's Next Top Model, right? –Howard the Duck 13:26, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

well, paolo said it in one of the recaps, and the cycle in antm as of what i know it is their term for season...well, you're in charge here, you make the decisions, i'm just stating my opinion, i'm not a major contributor in wiki, just a user--Ja 1207 (talk) 14:07, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Is there another website that has a similar table like the one we have here? –Howard the Duck 14:15, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

But I still believe "weeks" stays in the same treatment as episodes (in the American version's sense) because we go by weeks rather than cycles and it is less confusion this way.
As for the tables, did you check the official website's voting history? As far as third-party websites are concerned, I don't know. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 14:21, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Can you give me a link to the voting history page? I think there might be fansites of this show already and perhaps they have tables. We can't follow the U.S. version letter-by-letter since this show is somewhat different. –Howard the Duck 14:26, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

The link is http://www.survivorphilippines.tv/voting-history. It only shows Tribal Council numbers, but Niña's elimination happened outside a Tribal Council, so that probably can't be of any help. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 14:33, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Nina's elimination is included anyway so I guess it's useful.

But on that website's table, Patani's elimination was listed on the third council, but here it's on "week 4." I say instead of weeks, we use the order of tribal council. That was the logic on the U.S. version why they used "weeks" since after all that was a weekly show, right?

Also on PBB we also used eviction nights, not per week. –Howard the Duck 14:45, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

That's because the eviction and nomination days were designated and didn't have to be done by weekly. Also, if you want go by Tribal Council numbers instead of weeks, how will you label the time of Niña's elimination? - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 14:49, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

On an added note, since there is no Survivor Wikiproject to standarize Survivor articles, maybe you can also ask Gogo Dodo and The dark lord trombonator for their two cents on this. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 15:32, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Actually, there is a Survivor WikiProject that loosely oversees what goes on. It's kind of inactive though, but feel free to add your names to the list and give us a hand. </advertising> As for your problem, I would cite precedence with Cirie Fields of Survivor: Panama and put the first elimination from this week in last weeks column, and the same for when the same tribe voted twice. It would make the tables easier to comprehend, as they were voted out following the events of the previous week/cycle/whathaveyou. -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 04:18, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

What Ja1207 said got me thinking and this might be work as it is more logical to use "cycles" instead of "weeks" because it is more consistent this way, especially if we don't want to make a break in the flow like "Week #" will in the voting history. I will make the necessary changes if you agree with me. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 05:46, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

I say we use the table used by the official website. That'll remedy the problem. –Howard the Duck 12:05, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Instead of "cycle" use "tribal council". Cycle still puts me off. Is the term "cycle" used in the show? –Howard the Duck 12:08, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

It's hard to say, but "cycle" is the one used in the show. Again, it's less confusing this way and if we use Tribal Council Numbers, we still don't know how we'll label the time of Niña's elimination. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 12:58, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

I fail to see how that can be a problem (Nina's elimination). The official website's table remedies it rather well.

The reason why U.S. version's table is divided per week is that there is always one tribal council per week per episode. Ergo, tribal council=episode. In the Philippines' case, the tribal councils are not always done at the end of the week, hence we'd still follow the logic of the U.S. version in which every week stands for an episode, which has a tribal council. –Howard the Duck 13:02, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Did you consult the others in the Survivor Wikiproject about this? Especially Gogo Dodo, and the Dark Lord Trombonator? You may also ask them which is clearer. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 13:07, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll do so once we establish consensus here first.

If it helps, the episode numbers can be added with the tribal council number (it's pretty easy to determine which tribal councils were aired on Friday since episode numbers with multiples of 5 are those aired on Fridays.) –Howard the Duck 13:13, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Since you insist on episode numbers, how about the episode number on when the elimination is announced, not the episode in which the tribal council took place? It's obvious the last Tribal Council straddled two episodes; the same went with the one which saw Gigit and Patani's elimination. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 13:26, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

It'll appear as (Episodes ##-##). I dunno how Gigit and Patani's elimination went down but if the counting of the votes was done on the earlier episode then the revelation happened in the following episode it'll be "Episodes ##-##." If it were done one after another, with the first elimination happening on the earlier episode, then the other on the next episode, we'd have to use footnotes for that.

That is if you guys want episode numbers. –Howard the Duck 13:34, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

I got a good compromise, and I'm sure it'll be okay with you. I will retain the cycle numbers but include the episodes number in which the vote and subsequent announcement of elimination occured. I've went ahead and added the episode numbers. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 14:51, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

I like what you guys have come up with. Well done! -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 09:48, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Issues on the black and white pearls...

as i see it in the game...i think the "black pearl" is an original twist in the game. i think it will continue on in the remaining part of the game. my question is that, if the twist becomes constant in the merge, should we put it in 'the game' table as another column?? i think it'll be the same as 'exiled' in cbs survivor and 'kidnapped' in survivor: china...

another point is in the 'voting history' table. i think the vote of the eliminated castaway via the black pearl should be in black because the castaway is no longer part of the chalam tribe...and BLACK obviously represents that twist...--Ja 1207 (talk) 16:01, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

As for your first suggestion, I think I let the sections and the voting history table should tell about it instead of an extra column in the game table. But I did take the black coloring (gave the exempted block a new color). BTW, the term should be "cursed pearl" because while the term used in the show is "black pearl," it was actually silver. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 16:07, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Use an asterisk or footnote. –Howard the Duck 02:57, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

That's what I did the first time before Ja 1207's suggestion. Do you want me to revert to it? - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 03:17, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I wanna see what the other franchises with similar twists first. –Howard the Duck 03:20, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I'd recommend putting in a section "Differences from US version" like Survivor 10: The Caribbean did at the top of the article. You can explain about the twist there. I wouldn't mess up the table with more blank cells before this, as it is obvious in the Voting History what happened. -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 03:26, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

So I recommend using asterisks or some other formatting change (like italicization) to denote the person who holds the black pearl. Currently the person that held the black pearl and the exempted person has the same color it's confusing. –Howard the Duck 03:31, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

So if that's the problem why not simply change the exempted person's colour? -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 03:36, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Reverted back to the original asterisk, but decided to use italics instead. Also added the concept of the Cursed Pearl in the intro. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 03:47, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Without wanting to cause an editwar, I think it would be more appropriate to leave the marking black and change the colour of the exempted person, as the voter is not part of the purple tribe at that point of the game. Survivor: Panama had a similar problem with colours being used more than once in the table; we now have a dark grey shading for an exiled person. ( , although a lighter variant could be used if this is considered too close to the greyspace at the bottom of the table  ) -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 04:02, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I dunno, but he is a member of that tribe at that time, but the other tribe just "kidnapped" him. –Howard the Duck 04:13, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

The kidnapping twist isn't new: Survivor_Pearl_Islands#Voting_history -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 06:34, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I say we use how the kidnapping was handled in the Pearl Islands article. Maybe adding a colored border around the person that gave the black pearl may do the trick. I'd agree italicization would make it appear that the person that gave the black pearl would make it appear that the person is still a member of the tribe. –Howard the Duck 06:55, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I've changed the table with the black background and altered the exempted color to the one the Dark Lord suggested. Kiko was already voted out when Rob obtained the extra vote for him through the Cursed Pearl. So at least a different color would stand out in the table. And the new dark gray exempted "vote" was too far from the bottom, so there's no problem on that. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 09:29, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Am I the only one who thinks it's a good idea to use the same gray hue at the bottom of the table for the one that passed the black pearl? –Howard the Duck 12:45, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

well, Paolo said to give the black pearl to a member of his "former" tribe...and I think that if the show recognizes it as "THE" BLACK PEARL, then we should too...not really recognizing its visual color, but of its symbolic color (black = revenge)--Ja 1207 (talk) 13:03, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

If it matters, the official website's elimination table did not elaborate on the black pearl "twist". However I see where the Dark Lord comes from when he said the colors of the tribe should be the one used to denote where the vote came from, and since "the vote" came from the person that was eliminated already, the color used must be the one denoting that the person is eliminated, hence the gray hue used when one is eliminated. –Howard the Duck 13:23, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

as for votes against charisse in the last TC, i think it should be the first vote against her that would be crossed out because it was that first vote against her that paolo didn't count...furthermore, that same vote is cris' vote (as it had a single 's' in it, as we saw when cris' vote was shown)--Ja 1207 (talk) 15:39, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I feel that the last vote should be the one crossed out because it didn't matter whose vote was not counted. What if Charisse was the one voted out and the first vote shown against her and therefore not counted was one we did not see, whose vote will you cross out? You should also consider that by the time the show's run is over, the castaways will be ordered according to elimination order from Sole Survivor down to first one voted off. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 15:50, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

i feel that it will always be the first vote against the White pearl's holder that will not be included...and all votes counted during tally are always shown. It is also shown during the final words of the voted castaway...but then again, it still doesn't matter if whose vote is crossed out, I just commented on it since I am 100% sure that Cris' vote was the one not included...and, I don't know how your last sentence relates to the discussion.--Ja 1207 (talk) 08:22, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Episode Summaries

Anyone else think these are getting excessively long? Could they possibly be cut down to just the cycle, with all the extraneous information removed? -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 09:41, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I know the article is getting long. But I think this is tersest as I can get. I can get the details unimportant to the game, however, I want to include everything (excluding the confessionals) in as few words as possible. This is a very big problem especially with this show airing daily rather than weekly as many Survivor franchises do. But anyway, the game (and the show) will end either this week or next week (Day 35 is now being covered), so until then, the summaries have to stay. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 09:58, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

These are getting excessively long because of the filler episodes. 122.3.211.14 (talk) 03:00, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

The episode summaries will be moved to a new page come season 2. Starczamora (talk) 18:58, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

shouldn't it be that 2nd season have a new page???...--Ja 1207 (talk) 03:55, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Both. In any case, with the 1st season over, the episode summaries can now be trimmed down -- anything that didn't lead to the conclusion may be cut down. –Howard the Duck 13:42, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

what is the relevance of adding an external link to a fansite?

it must be deleted from the article because it is a form of vandalism. 121.54.92.146 (talk) 08:58, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Read WP:EL. –Howard the Duck 15:38, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Taping?...

Hey, Nanami...I believe it's either you put both the taping and airing in the anchor article or in each season's article...whatcha think??--Ja 1207 (talk) 13:18, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Both. They provide when the show was taped and when the show was aired. The only difference is that the anchor article provides only a short description of each season and other common elements. References for any confirmed season should be placed in the anchor article. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 13:36, 1 March 2009 (UTC)