Talk:Swawilla Fire
Swawilla Fire was nominated as a Natural sciences good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (September 29, 2024, reviewed version). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated. |
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Nominator: Sir MemeGod (talk · contribs) 15:37, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: TheNuggeteer (talk · contribs) 07:43, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
Reviewing this. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
07:43, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
Article-wide concerns
[edit]- Should there be an introduction or background to the location and the events which happened before it?
- You can provide the location and the coordinates in the infobox.
- Should there also be an "aftermath" section?
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
08:18, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
Lead
[edit]- The lead can be longer, and if you plan to elongate the lead, you can add the aftermath (deaths, cost).
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
08:18, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
Progression
[edit]- Ref 1 can be archived, because currently it says "403 Forbidden".
WSDOT can probably be Washington State Department of Transportation instead, since this is the first mention of it in the article.The fire was an estimated 5,000 acres
probably can be rephrased to "grew to".and the Washington Department of Natural Resources[1]
You forgot to add a period.- Source 4, 6, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, and 21 also say "403 Forbidden".
due to winds winds shifting westerly and pushed flames in a northeastern direction
Unsourced.The ferry was not performing any non-evacuation runs during that time
Probably unsourced.fire lines structures
I think there are some grammar mistakes.hwy 21
I think it's better to use "Highway".- There are two iterations of source 14 next to each other, you can remove the first one.
- I don't see Swawilla in source 19.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
08:18, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
Effects
[edit]- Source 20 needs fixing, you can archive it and mention the publisher and the name.
- The entire part looks unfinished.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
08:18, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
Growth and containment table
[edit]- I don't se August 6 and 9.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
08:18, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
My review. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
08:18, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- Will get everything done first thing in the morning. :) SirMemeGod 08:20, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'll actually get large parts of this done in the next hour (I've already fixed up a large majority of what you mentioned). A little comment, I don't get the 403 Forbidden message when I open the links, it shows me a regular InciWeb page with the information. SirMemeGod 08:28, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- Probably seems like a country-wide block. A lot of the article is based on the InciWeb pages.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
10:18, 22 September 2024 (UTC)- Just tell me when you're done.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
10:28, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- Just tell me when you're done.
- Probably seems like a country-wide block. A lot of the article is based on the InciWeb pages.
- I'll actually get large parts of this done in the next hour (I've already fixed up a large majority of what you mentioned). A little comment, I don't get the 403 Forbidden message when I open the links, it shows me a regular InciWeb page with the information. SirMemeGod 08:28, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
What I've done (MemeGod)
[edit]Should there be an introduction or background to the location and the events which happened before it?(Fire burned over several counties, and the fire was too large to be considered in a single area)You can provide the location and the coordinates in the infobox.(Added)Should there also be an "aftermath" section?(Did not do significant damage, so an aftermath section would be too short to have it's own standalone section)The lead can be longer, and if you plan to elongate the lead, you can add the aftermath (deaths, cost).(Added more, although I'm not sure if it's enough)- Ref 1 can be archived, because currently it says "403 Forbidden". (This may be a bug or a country-based block, either way I can't do anything about that. It shows as active on my computer)
WSDOT can probably be Washington State Department of Transportation instead, since this is the first mention of it in the article.(Fixed)(Fixed)The fire was an estimated 5,000 acres
probably can be rephrased to "grew to".(Fixed)and the Washington Department of Natural Resources[1]
You forgot to add a period.- Source 4, 6, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, and 21 also say "403 Forbidden". (This may be a bug or a country-based block, either way I can't do anything about that.)
due to winds winds shifting westerly and pushed flames in a northeastern direction
Unsourced.The ferry was not performing any non-evacuation runs during that time
Probably unsourced.(Fixed)fire lines structures
I think there are some grammar mistakes.(Used Find & Replace to fix)hwy 21
I think it's better to use "Highway".There are two iterations of source 14 next to each other, you can remove the first one.(Removed first iteration)I don't see Swawilla in source 19.(I checked all sources, all of them mentioned Swawilla or the fire, I may be wrong though)Source 20 needs fixing, you can archive it and mention the publisher and the name.(Removed the ref, since ref 21 covered the information cited by 20)The entire part looks unfinished.(I removed it since it didn't really destroy anything)I don't see August 6 and 9.(Removed by me due to a lack of data, apparently the furthest it consistently goes is August 7)
@TheNuggeteer: How does it look now? SirMemeGod 17:51, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
Comments by Rollinginhisgrave
[edit]As I mentioned on TheNuggeteer's page, I'll take over this review. Will get to commenting over the next few days. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 08:30, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you. :) SirMemeGod 13:25, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
I will be failing this article. Good articles have to conform to WP:OR, which says Do not base an entire article on primary sources, and be cautious about basing large passages on them.
This is currently under discussion, but as of reviewing, it is the policy. The entire article is constructed as an amalgamation of breaking news stories and daily updates, which are considered primary sources (WP:PRIMARY: For Wikipedia's purposes, breaking news stories are also considered to be primary sources.
). Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 06:25, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
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