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@TriiipleThreat: please note that this article was created pursuant to discussion at Talk:Characters of the Marvel Cinematic Universe#The Blip, where I noted that the redirect to Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Three was no longer tenable due to the event being depicted and playing a substantial role in Phase Four. BD2412 T 18:33, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- While that might be true, the topic still may not meet General Notability Guidelines. Perhaps this and other similar articles based on peripheral in-universe aspects of the MCU could be merged into a cover-all article like Features of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 18:36, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- It is trivially easy to find GNG-satisfying coverage of this specific event. I have just added another source specifically for the proposition that the Blip continues to be of significance to works set in the MCU. It is likely to also play a prominent role in the setup of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, due to premiere in less than two weeks, which will cement this significance. Why don't we wait and see how that develops? BD2412 T 18:45, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Note: there is currently a draft for Features of the Marvel Cinematic Universe at Draft:Features of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, so feel free to expand the expand the section on the Blip. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:47, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- It is trivially easy to find GNG-satisfying coverage of this specific event. I have just added another source specifically for the proposition that the Blip continues to be of significance to works set in the MCU. It is likely to also play a prominent role in the setup of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, due to premiere in less than two weeks, which will cement this significance. Why don't we wait and see how that develops? BD2412 T 18:45, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Most of the listed references in this article do not qualify "significant coverage beyond a mere trivial mention" as they focus on the work as a whole, not The Blip itself.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 18:55, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Enough do. BD2412 T 18:57, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- I disagree.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 19:00, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Well, obviously this article is still very much under construction. WP:BEFORE applies, so I would invite you to look for sources and help expand the article along lines that would suit its conformance to criteria for inclusion. All of your edits to this article thus far have been to add tags, which gives me no sense that you have actually investigated or tried to resolve the issues you raise. BD2412 T 22:05, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- I disagree.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 19:00, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Enough do. BD2412 T 18:57, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Most of the listed references in this article do not qualify "significant coverage beyond a mere trivial mention" as they focus on the work as a whole, not The Blip itself.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 18:55, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose merging at this point, based on substantial expansion of the article, including demonstrations of real-world impact through the Reddit ban, comparisons to COVID-19, and examinations of the hypothetical real-world effect of the event. I think the tags can be removed at this point. Substantial additional coverage has been provided, comparable to that of articles that routinely survive questions about their notability. BD2412 T 06:22, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
This entire article's name/framing is wrong
[edit]Article consistently refers to the disintegration event as "the blip" when that only refers to the restoring of disintegration victims five years later. "The snap" is the instigating disintegration event and "the blip" refers only to the restoration of its victims. Will likely edit later with more time to reflect this reality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:3D08:467C:2C60:6D87:E338:70C:74B5 (talk • contribs)
- It sounds like you haven't actually read the article. See this source. It is established that, despite what Kevin Feige may have said, both events are referred to in-universe as "the Blip". This discussion may also be useful. IronManCap (talk) 12:40, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
- I concur entirely with IronManCap. The title and scope are correct as is. BD2412 T 16:17, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Ms. Marvel's status?
[edit]I've heard that Kamala Khan/Ms. Marvel survived the Blip, but she isn't listed on the survivors list. 98.165.84.45 (talk) 04:04, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- Source? InfiniteNexus (talk) 06:07, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Listing the Eternals as "survivors"
[edit]Should the Eternals be listed as survivors at all? According to the source article on their status (Eisenberg, Eric (November 9, 2021). "Did Any Eternals Get Blipped By Thanos? Chloé Zhao Has A Fascinating Answer". CinemaBlend. Archived from the original on November 10, 2021. Retrieved November 9, 2021.), they could not have been blipped because they are artificial beings. I think that rather than listing them as survivors, we should have a section noting that they were never at risk of being blipped. BD2412 T 04:57, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- Well, the technical definition of "survive" is "continue to exist", which is what happened to the Eternals when the Blip happened. InfiniteNexus (talk) 06:08, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, but they are kind of robots. Technically they survived in the way that they could never have been subject to the Blip. Listing them as survivors but then stating that they are artificial and so couldn't have been blipped, seems sufficient to me.
- But that's just my opinion. No offense meant. Sorry if this is not within talk guidelines Bucky winter soldier (talk) 22:11, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- That was my thinking as well. It's sort of like saying that a toaster survived the Blip. BD2412 T 22:31, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- We do already note in the Survivors section "
The Eternals also survived the Blip because they were artificial, not biological, beings.
", so potentially just stating the Eternals names there rather than in the bulleted list could be an option, though I'm not sure if that is a clarification that ought to be made outright. Trailblazer101 (talk) 22:33, 9 October 2023 (UTC)- I would agree with that, and it would save us from having to recycle the reference. BD2412 T 22:35, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- I have implemented this. It's a little bit awkward, because they introduced so damn many of them in that one movie, but I still consider this an improvement. BD2412 T 22:43, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Great! That works for me. Trailblazer101 (talk) 22:44, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Fine by me, but the WP:SCAREQUOTES should be removed. InfiniteNexus (talk) 22:45, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- I have teased out the explanation a bit more. BD2412 T 23:16, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- That works. Great!😁 Bucky winter soldier (talk) 23:29, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- I have teased out the explanation a bit more. BD2412 T 23:16, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- We do already note in the Survivors section "
- That was my thinking as well. It's sort of like saying that a toaster survived the Blip. BD2412 T 22:31, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
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