Talk:Tim Henman

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Residence

Does he really live in an Italian restaurant in Rotherham? Is there a reference for that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.108.236.122 (talk) 08:42, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Choker?

Shouldn't there be a mention of the fact that he's considered a choker? --Charlesknight 10:18, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Come on Tim

There ought to also be a "COME ON TIM!" in there somewhere Mr.Bob (talk)

'English' or 'British'?

How come it has been decided that Andy Murray is a British tennis player and Tim Henman is an English one? Is it because of the football thing? ;)

I have changed both to British. All people who live in Great Britain are British. Dewarw 18:02, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that can be true. Was Madonna British? Richiau (talk) 16:43, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If it's been decided that Andy Murray is Scottish before British, then surely Tim Henman is English before being identified as British? You can't have it both ways. Either their both British tennis players (Which is as it should be) or we identify them by their actual nationality. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.161.38.119 (talk) 04:39, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Erm...is his girlfriend not English? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.202.19.22 (talk) 23:50, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think that, as someone has suggested for Andy Murray on his talk page, the following is a good compromise:

Timothy Henry "Tim" Henman OBE (born 6 September 1974) is an English retired professional tennis player and former British Number One.

This demonstrates that he is English but played tennis for Britain. Nottmlad (talk) 15:50, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was just gone to say the actual nationality is British as the actual nation is the United Kingdom and the denonym of that is British. English is more like a sub-nationality of British but it's being more specific, however, like in most sports we compete as Great Britain therefore I'd class them both as british. 82.5.224.82 (talk)

I altered English to British - copying the Andy Murray entry, basically. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShifteBoy (talk • contribs) 18:30, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Henman's temper

Anyway, no mention of the incident where henman hit a ball in anger and hit a ball girl on the temple? I think it was mid '90s and he was playing a doubles match with his partner Jermemy Bates...

#Professional_career reads like an essay

Professional Career reads like an essay -- as such I have added the {{{essay-entry}}} template. I also considered {{{section}}} as I feel this section would benefit from level 3 headers, since it is very long and includes information that is easily categorised by time, tournament or success.

Thanks, Jonaboff_talk

17:28, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

I checked the preview on adding the template, but after reviewing changes to the article I notice that the infobox breaks the template making it take up many lines. I will try to rectify the problem now.

Thanks, Jonaboff_talk

Unbalanced with too much info from later years of his career andnot enough from earlier. Year related info is a bit of a mish mash. - Jamie, unregistered user.

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This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 11:03, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Table nomenclature

Could someone add a definition of what all the entries in the table at the end of the article mean. I presume "2R" means he got as far as the second round, "QF" quarter finals. Does "W" mean he won it? If so, why s there only 1 "W" and yet the total wins line has 11 points even though the total column says 12. Basically the table is unclear to a non-tennis playing English speaker. Non-experts beware. -- SGBailey (talk) 23:03, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is Henman better than Rusedski?

Surely Greg Rusedsksi is Britains greatest open era player with a US open final, 18 ATP titles and a Grand Slam cup win in 1999?

rather than Henman with 11 tour titles and no grand slam final appearances? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.188.143.245 (talk) 22:39, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Official site

Looks like this is no longer online! When I clicked on it in the article Firefox tries to load "http://www.www.timhenman.org/", I thought this was a mistake in the article so I edited the article to remove the "www" from the official site link in the External links section but even then it still does it! There is no site currently @http://timhenman.org. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Christopedia (talk • contribs) 07:38, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Basel

The ATP tournament in Basel was never an International Series Gold event until it was upgraded in 2009. Please don't mark it as being one in the list of Henman's tournament finals appearances.

Henman Hill

Is there not a trivial section with this and maybe a few other facts mentioned. also i think the article needs a bit off work - espically breaking up the career section, it is too long 86.131.21.179 (talk) 16:46, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect caption with image

On the page it shows a picture with teh caption "Henman backhand volleyong at Wimbledon" Clearly this is not correct as he is behind the baseline. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.111.29.141 (talk) 20:52, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. Changes. Alan16 (talk) 20:57, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In popular culture (or as a national joke)

I think the article should include the fact that Henman's failure to win Wimbledon became a British comedic trope - Dead Ringers, Mock the Week, 2DTV, and many others actively mocked him. Even now retired he's still a source of humour to many. Maybe call it Impact, include notes about Henman Hill, comedy and also that people yell Come on Tim at Andy Murray. -mattbuck (Talk) 22:46, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's true that he was regularly mocked, as this Guardian article notes, for being middle class and boring - Linda Smith memorably called him "a human form of beige." But I think we have to be very careful with such sections in a WP:BLP article. Certainly I don't think it's wrong to include criticism of him as a player - his inability to reach a Grand Slam final led to some commentators (unfairly in my opinion) calling him a choker. But criticism of him as a person... I don't think it's appropriate. Incidentally I don't think the "Come on Tim" chants at Andy Murray's matches are knocking Henman; quite the opposite - these wags are making the point that Murray will never be as popular at Wimbledon as Henman was.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 00:49, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Grammar

There are multiple grammatical errors the article needs cleaning up. For instance, hardcore, threw, single instead of singles, double instead of doubles numerous times and various other grammatical errors.

In fact the grammar in this article is terrible, someone needs to proof-read and correct it.

Don't worry, the article will be copyedited when the expansion is finished... If its so bad now, please copyedit it.. It doesn't help me, or Wikipedia, to hear you complain, when you can just as easily fix the errors yourself.... --TIAYN (talk) 14:59, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nalbandian

Can someone add in a section on henman's Nalbandian like disqualification from wimbledon doubles in 1995? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.180.168.22 (talk) 21:55, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]