Talk:Tomb of Payava

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Formatting

Anyone know how to fix the format issue that leaves the bottom of the lead paragraph seperated from the rest of the text by a big gap? I tried to fix it, but couldn't work out was causing it... The Flying Spaghetti Monster! 12:27, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't happen for me in Firefox.JMiall ₰ 16:32, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ah well, I'm using Google Chrome though I'm starting to think it's just my screen size that's the problem. Thanks anyway, The Flying Spaghetti Monster! 16:49, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tomb base

How do you know that is the base of the Payava tomb? The base pictured is shown here to be in front of the Roman theatre to the side of the Roman agora. According to the map provided by Jenkins the Payava tomb is nowhere near that location. The map here seems to identify it as "House Tomb" whatever that means. SpinningSpark 15:15, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was just going by what was on es. I agree that

is of the "House Tomb" but are you sure that

is the same one? I assume you are saying that the right hand side of

is what you can see as the front face of the base in the other photo? JMiall ₰ 12:38, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am certain it is the same object by a multitude of small details. The "whitewashed" patch on the right, the two peg-like structures on the right corner of the 3rd course of stone, the rough stone structure in the background; all of these details, and much more besides, can be identified in the view of Xanthos in my picture. There is no doubt it is the same object, the question is, what is it? The original source at Flickr, as well as the English caption at Commons, says nothing about Payava, this would appear to be OR from es.wiki SpinningSpark 18:28, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Several books mention this tomb but annoyingly Google books has not got access to any of the pages with photographs. However check out this image in Flickr and this web page. Both would indicate that it is the house tomb. SpinningSpark 20:48, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And these sketches [1][2] indicate the tomb of Payava has a plain, unadorned base. SpinningSpark 17:09, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Jenkins confirms that the pictures were not of the Payava tomb - as SpinningSpark suggests, the tomb is elsewhere (in the Necropolis). It looks like this has been sorted out in any case.Sphenisciform (talk) 11:45, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is true that this is not the Payava tomb’s base, but the “House Tomb” and it means that, this is a sort of an alias which is describing only the style of it (its kinda stone replica of the Lycian wooden houses), because it is one of the unidentified tombs of the Xanthos.

This is the Payava tomb’s base and the exact location.

Author of the file doesn’t have a clue about the object on his/her picture, as we cannot read that on the Description. This article may confirm (In Turkish. See the picture on it’s third page): “The Payava Sarcophagus” by İsa Kızgut from Akdeniz University - https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326089940_The_Payava_Sarcophagus or https://dergipark.org.tr/en/pub/cedrus/issue/50420/653975 (DOI:10.13113/CEDRUS/201802). Alirizaesin (talk) 20:03, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Alirizaesin:Same one viewed from the other side then <<<. Thanks! पाटलिपुत्र (Pataliputra) (talk) 10:28, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Yes, it’s the same thing; but, if you’d ask me, the first one was better to clarify the exact location — with the help of the identifiable landmarks in the background). Also, this is (the 2nd one) an underexposed photograph. Alirizaesin (talk) 10:46, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I added the two photographs in the article. Thanks! पाटलिपुत्र (Pataliputra) (talk) 13:19, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]