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Lady Grey merge

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I propose merging Lady Grey (tea) into this article, on the following grounds:

  • It is a registered trademark of Twinings, not a style of tea available from other sources.
  • It is one of many teas available by Twinings, and I don't see any evidence that it is even among the most widely-available or popular.
  • I see scant evidence of notability, see: [1]; I'm not sure this could survive WP:AfD as a standalone article.

I thought of being bold and just merging but I thought I'd bring it up in case anyone had any thoughts to share. I'd also be open to discussion of deletion, if someone would prefer it to merging. Cazort (talk) 22:08, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It would make sense, if there were any discussion of their other product lines. Atm, it seems we should just add a single sentence here after the Earl Grey discussion, and delete the Lady Grey article. Modest Genius talk 22:58, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You could put a WP:Prod on it; I wouldn't object. Cazort (talk) 17:56, 15 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Against: Other Twinings-exlusive teas, such as Prince of Wales have their own articles --68.189.254.22 --Andresgmejiar (talk) 22:30, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
And is there any good reason for them? I'd suggest removing these at all. As to the prince of wales tea, this google news archive search: [2] shows only sparse coverage, mostly fairly trivial...enough for a paragraph maybe on this page but not enough to justify a standalone article. That article, too, as it stands, is totally unsourced. Cazort (talk) 18:59, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Whilst it is a registered trade mark it should have it's own page as many a person searching may not know that it a Twinnings tea. Precedent for this is the Windows article and Office articles not being part of Micrsoft's page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.149.242.59 (talk) 09:56, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, except there's easily enough material for a whole article on Windows or Office on their own. That doesn't seem to be the case for Lady Grey. Modest Genius talk 23:54, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm against merging Lady Grey into the Twinings article. Twinings and Lipton has lots of teas, but listing them is not relevant or useful. Singling out Lady Grey simply because its trademarked is not enough. Im even for deleting the Lady Grey article all together. PS I deleted the Advert tag, as all the previous tea listings have been removed. Gnurkel (talk) 00:35, 26 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There is already a small section on Lady Grey on the Earl Grey page. It seems to me that it would be a more logical merge than into the Twinnings page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.96.233.152 (talk) 10:35, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm in favor of this method. Lady Grey being a variant on Earl Grey, I think it would be more suitable to have it as a small sub-section of the Earl Grey article, rather than invalidating the current information on Lady Grey tea by merging it with an article with which it shares little in common.99.180.114.26 (talk) 15:04, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I prefer separate pages for the sake of searchability and modularity. I think these pages will grow with time.8 Jan 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.35.17.15 (talk) 13:21, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that both Lady Grey and other articles related to particular teas should be deleted. They bear no relevance, have no citations and brings no relevant information to the community. I'm for deletions. Gnurkel (talk) 11:49, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Against Jagoperson (talk) 20:12, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ethics section removed

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The following text was removed (from an anonymous IP) with the edit summary "Removed section, assigning highly subjective notions of ethics is flamebait for an edit war." I disagree on several grounds: (1) that an edit war is something that we experienced editors should be able to handle, (2) that ethics should be discussed somewhere, (3) that I don't think this text warrants the characterization as "highly subjective", it reads as a list of facts. It could do with updating for the last three years, ...

Ethics

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The company is a founding member of the Ethical Tea Partnership,[1] a group of tea-packing companies that work for a fair trade policy and monitor the ethical conditions on tea estates. Despite this, it is linked to a number of ethical and environmental issues. The criticism includes the worst ECRA rating for environmental reporting, palm oil use, lobbying for unfair EU sugar rules and for owning subsidiaries in tax havens. In the Ethical Consumer magazine on a scale of 0 to 20 where 0–4 is ranked as "very poor", Twinings receives a score of 2 as of October 2009.[2]

  1. ^ "Ethical Tea Partnership – Working for a Responsible Tea Industry". United Kingdom. Retrieved 17 January 2009.
  2. ^ Detailed report of Twinings ethical and environmental impact. (Requires login)
Sminthopsis84 (talk) 14:01, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The Ethical Consumer rating (which they claim is continuously updated) is still the same, so I've updated the date accordingly. Modest Genius talk 19:17, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The "Ethics" section SHOULD be removed. It's marketing bullshit.70.29.99.106 (talk) 04:16, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Agree that it should be removed or heavily edited. The entire section takes up most of the article and is thinly sourced. The first paragraph reads like an advertisement and then turns into a long list of bullet points that aren't necessary. - Nemov (talk)

Twinings New Zealand breakfast tea

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I'm removing a link to a press release for Twinings New Zealand breakfast tea introduced in 2010. See WP:UNDUE. It is unclear whether this product is still available, or where. This is a press release to announce one of many varieties of Twinings tea, available in one of many markets. Maybe if there was a link to independent news coverage of this event, it would be notable. Honestly, do we really need a link to press releases to every flavor of tea in every local market? If someone made a serious attempt to list all the flavors of tea in various markets, that would be okay. But this element of trivia does not belong in the Today section of the article. Logical Cowboy (talk) 00:59, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Large British Tea producers

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Seen from a Scandinavian horizon, Lipton, Tetley and Twinings appear to be the three main brands of British Tea. Is this the case also in the UK ? And do they all produce the same main products ? Like English Breakfast, Earl Grey etc and perhaps also Black Currant (the only fruit flavored tea which I like. But Earl Grey is my overall favorite.) Brands produced in the UK are a necessity in life, although brewed "Green Zoega" coffee is even more important, in the morning. Boeing720 (talk) 22:45, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Earl Grey is fruit flavoured. Bergamot is a citrus.70.29.99.106 (talk) 04:21, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"associated with Earl Grey" - only ?

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Twinings makes also tea with Black Currant taste, [3] (sorry for the advertise), and with lemon taste and other fruits or berries. Are fruit flavored tea seen as different from "regular tea" , in the UK ? I'm Scandinavian, and not entirely enlightened of every aspect of the British Tea-culture, although 90% of all tea sold in Sweden are UK imported (Twinings, Tetley and Lipton, and flavors like Earl Grey, English Breakfast, Black Currant, Lemon and others). Boeing720 (talk) 01:55, 8 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Advertising banner seems to warrant deletion of flavour catalogue

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Cleaning up this article, and suggest that the advertising effect here might be greatly reduced by replacing the entire "Varieties" section with a single sentence, as per WP:NOTCAT and WP:ADVERT, such as:

Varieties include black, green and herbal teas, along with fruit-based cold infusions. RFT42 (talk) 04:08, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Done 15 February 2020. RFT42 (talk) 04:17, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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This came up and someone suggested that Wynand Fockink likely had an older logo. They were contacted and they said that Lucos Bols a dutch spirits company uses a logo that dates back to 1575. This is significantly earlier than twinings.--222.109.164.154 (talk) 00:34, 2 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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