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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by Narutolovehinata5 talk 00:53, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that missionary George Leslie Mackay recorded 19 typhoons affecting Taiwan in the 1890s?

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Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Leanne Mohamad

Created by TheNuggeteer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 15 past nominations.

🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 07:26, 23 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

I'll give this article a go.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing: - Some of the claims in the article need further citations. Just to name a few: "A Chinese word, Tai, (meaning Typhoon), appeared in multiple books originating from Taiwan" is not supported by the citation, as the source only notes that the word "probably appeared in Chinese literature". The first line of the lead, "Taiwan is one of the most typhoon-prone countries in Southeast Asia, just near the Philippines", is completely unsourced. The article has an internal inconsistency where the death toll of Typhoon Lekima is cited as having a death toll of 2 and 105, apparently from the same source.
Neutral: - The choice in which typhoons to cover in the article seems bizarre. For instance, Typhoon Morakot, despite being named in the article's lead as the deadliest typhoon to hit Taiwan, is given no mention in the "Typhoons" section of the article, while various, more minor tropical storms are.
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Other problems: - The article suffers from information being in the lead that is not in the article itself (notably information about Morakot), and the "Typhoons" section violates WP:PROSELINE.

Hook eligibility:

Cited: - On second look at the source, it appears that the hook is somewhat misleading. It claims that Mackay recorded 19 typhoons in his diary between 1871 and 1894, but it doesn't specifically specify the 1890s.
Interesting: - Not that interesting imo. According to the article's lead, "Multiple typhoons enter Taiwan every year", so the fact that multiple typhoons entered Taiwan in a particular year is underwhelming, to say the least.

QPQ: Done.

Overall:

There are too many issues from a cursory look that I doubt everything can be resolved in a timely manner. I'm going to say no as of now, but I'd be open to giving the article another look if major improvements are undertaken in the near future! Leafy46 (talk) 15:17, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To-do

This is the to-do list for this page: Add typhoons (strike if done):

Typhoon Lekima
Typhoon Mitag (2019)
Typhoon Maria (2018)

Typhoon Nesat (2017)
Typhoon Nepartak
Typhoon Meranti
Typhoon Malakas (2016)
Typhoon Megi (2016)
Tropical Storm Linfa (2015)
Typhoon Soudelor
Typhoon Dujuan (2015)
Typhoon Matmo (2014)
Tropical Storm Fung-wong (2014)
Typhoon Soulik (2013)
Tropical Storm Trami (2013)
Typhoon Saola (2012)
Typhoon Tembin (2012)
Typhoon Nanmadol (2011)
Typhoon Fanapi

🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 08:06, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 31 August 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved per WP:SNOW. (non-admin closure) Vanilla Wizard 💙 19:29, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Typhoons in Taiwan → Typhoons in the Taiwan – Hello not long so move the list the name is Typhoons in Taiwan Not a List. Use name: Typhoons in the Taiwan 🌀TyphoonAmpil🌀 (💬 - Typhoon) 06:14, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - Sorry, but Taiwan does not regularly use the before the name. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 06:28, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - Agree to @TheNuggeteer Bunnypranav (talk) 13:02, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per above, "the" isn't used for Taiwan, like how we don't say "the Korea". Dank Jae 20:11, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

oppose what is this rational supposed to be?—blindlynx 23:40, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - I can't understand the rationale behind this move and the move makes no sense. I think it would be helpful to find reliable sources that use this format, but I anticipate there are none. Interstellarity (talk) 13:46, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.