Talk:Welcome to the N.H.K.

Removed original research

"Many elements in manga that deemed too adult-material have been cut-off in storyline (like attempt-suicide with couple of pest-repellants "mixed with cockroach for flavor")."

This very much looked like original research to me. I don't think attempted suicide is much more "adult" than things such as porn and lolicon. Not that he even attempted it anyways, he only made the drink. I haven't kept up with the anime though, if the whole suicide club story gets cut as well then I think then it's pretty obvious that they are avoiding suicide references. But the suicide cocktail was just a small gag, not really important enough to infer anything from its absence. --SeizureDog 18:14, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, yes, but the fact is that many part that was in the manga was removed, such as references to certain drugs, extensive nudiety and such. Dooly00000 (talk · contribs · count)

The nudity between the manga and anime is pretty much the same. Nipples are only visable a few times in the manga, and only slighty. The drug references I don't know about, as I didn't get that far into the anime. In any case, we certainly don't know that it is because of self-censorship that they are not present in the anime. Anime is nearly always a little different from its source material. Of course, I haven't read the novels. The anime may be true to it and the manga wasn't, I dunno. --SeizureDog 21:06, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

In that case, I'll restore the animation part back to original only then. dooly00000 (talk · contribs · count)

Ugh, I didn't even bring up "seems to be quite successful as of now" because I thought that was obviously bad OR. Not only does it use a bad WP:Peacock word, it also is uncertain in its assertion. The sentence doesn't mean anything. Removing again.--SeizureDog 21:17, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and the start date is in the infobox and looks too lonely by itself.--SeizureDog 21:18, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

We do need some sort of text under that header though, otherwise it's just... lame looking, I guess. --tjstrf 21:24, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

What we need is information aside from an episode list, which should probably be split off soon enough. Major (not minor) differences from the light novel (not manga) would be nice to go here, but I don't think anyone here actually has read the light novel :/ --SeizureDog 23:02, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

I have, though only for the first five chapters (equalling two chapters of the manga or 3 episodes of the anime)....and I can say that the anime is actually closer to the novel. _dk 00:53, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

I have not seen novel yet. I ordered it and waiting for the item to be shipped in few days. (I didn't even know novel existed until few weeks ago). Hopefully, I (and many others) can make some addition and removal by then. --Dooly00000 (talk · contribs · count) 20:19, 3 Sept. 2006 (UTC)

I haven't seen anime and even haven't read manga, but i read novel. There are many drug references and not much porn. :) Btw, Nihon Hikikomori Kyokai was invented by Sato in a drug trip. Later Sato and Yamazaki use drugs frequently, but most of trips are bad. Judge youself is it more like anime or manga.--85.25.148.242 01:40, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Despite me not being a regular Wikipedia editor, I'd just like to bring up a few things, being a guy who has real all three versions of Welcome to the NHK. The manga, anime and novel all have their unique scenarios, generally expressing the same storyline and characters. So while there are some scenarios which are the same for one or two of the mediums, its sort of an incorrect mentality to think that they are appropriations of each other. So thinking "the anime left out some concepts from the manga" is somewhat like looking the wrong way- the way you should be thinking is that the three mediums are unique stories, just with the same characters, themes and storylines. This accoutns for all the discrepancies between the mediums, and destroys the neccesity for this discussion altogether. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.7.166.181 (talk) 13:03, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Episode summaries

The summary of episode 23 is too long to be featured on the 'Episode List' table. I suggest we create a new page named "Welcome to Misaki" and then proceed to create individual pages for the remaining episodes as the text comes along.-- Ishikawa Minoru 22:55, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

I suggest we don't and just cut down the length of the summary of 23. The NHK anime is not notable enough for a page on every episode. _dk 03:34, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Altough I agree that there shouldn't be individual pages for each NHK ni Youkoso! episode, that kind of argument, _dk, doesn't make any sense, because... Wikipedia DOES have a page for each and every episode of the Simpsons, Star Trek and other notable-for-their-geek-audience series. In my opinion, that kind of information should only be included in Wikis about those series.ShinjiPG 13:58, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm aware of that. I myself do not like having an article about every episode of some series...but that's the way it is and it's gonna take a very big effort to change that. _dk 01:20, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

One thing I noticed....

It says NHK stands for "Nihon hikikomori kyokai" but near the end (episode 23 I think) it lists the "N" as possibly standing for various other negative traits, can't remember what they were but I definitely remember them. Of course, hikikomori is the primary H, just thought it was notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.100.234.9 (talk • contribs)

"Other negative traits"? You realize that "Nihon" means "Japan" and isn't a "negative trait" right? In anycase, I don't think these other "meanings" deserve mention.--SeizureDog 23:05, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I think 71.100.234.9 wanted to say that "H" has various meanings. "Nihon Hiyowa (weak person) Kyokai" for sempai, "Nihon Hikan (pessimist) Kyokai" for Misaki. --85.25.148.242 10:18, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Romance? Drama?

I do not belive this anime is a drama/romance! I have seen a few AMV's of NHK and a few episodes and there is no romance in it unless you class. A guy looking at barely leagal images on the web haveing sex dreams of some neko girl, while locked up in his house 24/7! so can you remove that genre? --Tatshro Satou 16:22, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Seriously, if you have not seen much of the series, you really shouldn't bring up an argument about it. One of the developing plotlines later on in the series is Satō falling in love with Misaki. As for drama, the series is filled with it since Satō has to cope with the constant knowledge that he is a failure at life and has to overcome that.--十八 19:26, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Have you seen it? From what i can see there anit gona be no grown ass man who likes barely legal porn having ANY romance with a underage girl! The most drama that can happen is his persocom stops working while he looks for more images!--Tatshro Satou 16:19, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

If you ignore responses, do not be surprised if you're ignored in return. Juhachi has answered your question. –Gunslinger47 16:40, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Im sorry if i said something wrong just now! Dont get the wrong impression!.....what are you talking about?--Tatshro Satou 16:48, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Quote: "One of the developing plotlines later on in the series is Satō falling in love with Misaki. As for drama, the series is filled with it since Satō has to cope with the constant knowledge that he is a failure at life and has to overcome that." –Gunslinger47 16:52, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

X_X....Didn i just say.....hold on! How in the USA isit "romance" if he is legally a Porn loven, master....nevermind! the point is that anit romance! nither is that damn story Romeo And whats her face! The nhk girl is what, 12yrs old? --Tatshro Satou 16:58, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

She's was a High School student before she dropped out, so she's likely from 16 to 18 years old. –Gunslinger47 17:17, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

"17-18" said Sato, Misaki agreed (c)novel. :) --85.25.148.242 01:48, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Maybe NHK can be considered as "Psychological" too, not? Rev-san 15:13, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I think the best genre for this is Black ComedyBrainster31 (talk) 23:02, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Tatsuhiro may fall in love with misaki but that does not means that this anime is a romance... is like saying that "Saint Seiya" is a romance because seiya falls in love with saori... This anime must be rated like a psicological drama, because the main theme and plot is about satou's hikikomori life. Note that the anime ends with satou as a healed hikikomori, closing the theme. and we don't know at the endo of the anime what is going to happen with satou-misaki relationship.

guys he's just a troll, stop worrying 172.191.223.206 (talk) 17:37, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

The Purupuru song

I could have sworn I heard that song as an opening for another anime at some point. Although, I can't find anything on the internet relating that song to another anime. Can anyone think of an anime that has this song as the opening, or have I just mistaken? Wheelsx 19:10, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

It is really similar to the opening from "Beating Angel Dukuro-chan" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.240.124.52 (talk) 21:53, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Needs updating

The page says that the manga is ongoing with six volumes, however the side bar says that the manga has eight volumes and has finished. A lot of other information also seems out of date.

First is in North America, sidebar is for the original Japanese publication. --Pmsyyz 23:18, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Could I add that the novel is already out in the US? I bought it on Saturday at Borders. 71.178.187.138 21:12, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Possible error in ages

"It is one of the first manga published by Tokyopop to be rated M, for an 18 or older audience (Happy Mania, Battle Royale, Yubisaki Milk Tea among others, have also earned this rating from Tokyopop)." Is that right? 18 usually means Adult audiences and not mature. I think this number should be 17 which is usually what M is for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ergzay (talk • contribs) 06:01, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

See their M logo. Says 18+ right on it.--SeizureDog 02:45, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Plot diferences

I would like to know if there's any diference in the anime's ending respect manga's ending, because i think that when the anime was over the manga was still being published... so.. does the anime ends in the middle of the manga's plot? or is it a complete adaptation? i would really like this to be specificated in the article, because it is really important information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Starlingmaximilian (talk • contribs) 03:44, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Shōnen

Erm, how is this shōnen? Sure, it was first serialized in Shōnen Ace, but so was NGE. The manga was full of drug and alcohol abuse, pedophilia, suicide as was the anime. Hardly "teenage boy" themes. Seems a bit off, especially since the shōnen page here proudly displays InuYasha, Bleach, Yu-Gi-Oh, and Dragon Ball in the article. tyx (talk) 07:23, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

We designate manga demographics by what the demographic of the magazine the manga was serialized in is, in this case shōnen for Shōnen Ace.--十八 07:38, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

@Tyx lolicon isn't the same as pedophilia. If it would, it wouldn't be legal in many countries. 2A01:598:88B9:7C7:1:1:3DB2:70AD (talk) 14:00, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

novel v manga v anime

There should be more on the comparative differences between the three, and if the cover the same territory or not. 70.55.86.100 (talk) 13:14, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Actually, the entire article needs to be rewritten to cover the novel version, with the anime and manga versions covered in their own sections later on. It seems heavily focused on the adaptions right now. Doceirias (talk) 21:46, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Misaki's Bio Incorrect?

I have only read the manga so far so maybe this is just a difference between mediums (though even if it is, that should be indicated), but Misaki's description is incorrect. Everything about her mother dieing when she was young and her father being a drunk who abused her was just another lie to manipulate Sato. It's shown that both her parents are alive and quite well off. There's also no talk of how manipulative of a character she is. The "she means no harm" line seems especially inaccurate.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.153.231.8 (talk • contribs)

• The Misaki in the novel and anime have a different personality than the Misaki in the manga. --69.226.57.237 (talk) 12:33, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Rental sisters

"Shutting Themselves In", New York Times:

"One Friday afternoon not long ago, Yoshimi Kawakami waited at a doorstep near Kyoto, expecting to be stood up. It has happened in the snow in Tokyo and in the heat of Kyoto summer afternoons. She has waited for two hours or more, fueled by the hope that - this time - someone will answer.

It is part of being a "rental sister," as the outreach counselors are known at New Start. Rental sisters are often a hikikomori's first point of contact and his route back to the outside world. (There are a few rental brothers, too, but "women are softer, and hikikomori respond better to them," one counselor told me.)
The relationship usually begins after a parent telephones New Start and arranges for consultations and routine visits from a rental sister, which costs about $8,000 a year. The rental sister then writes a letter to the hikikomori, introducing herself and the program. "I never read it; I threw it away," said Y.S., the 28-year-old with the shy smile I'd met at New Start's potluck. When Kawakami arrived at his house in Chiba, near Tokyo, for the first time, Y.S. opened his bedroom door long enough to tell her, "Please, go home."

It was a typical first meeting..."

--Gwern (contribs) 08:35 19 July 2010 (GMT)

Review(s)

• ANN Brain Diving

--KrebMarkt (talk) 20:20, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Misaki's Borderline personality disorder

The article claims that Misaki has BPD, or at least "shows symptoms of it," with no citations. I don't know what this is talking about, or if the author has any ideas what the symptoms of BPD look like, but without a citation I'm going to say that's nice and inaccurate. Can we get a citation? or can we remove that reference? Thanks.

2601:B:3100:35:40A6:12A3:7831:82E9 (talk) 03:47, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Rebuild of Welcome to the NHK

The article should include info about the new sequel/reboot series "Rebuild of Welcome to the NHK".

https://tatsuhikotakimoto.gumroad.com/l/hlUqQY

91.152.49.167 (talk) 15:29, 18 April 2022 (UTC)