Talk:Williams sisters

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Boycott of BNP Paribas Open by Venus and Serena Williams was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 10 January 2012 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Williams sisters. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

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It might be useful to add discussion here or elsewhere regarding some points of interest.
Specifically, I believe the Williams sisters likely have the record for most Grand Slam titles by siblings, a record that may never be broken. Is there another example where both siblings have been ranked No. 1? Are there any other siblings that between them have won every Grand Slam singles title? They likely hold the record for sibling matchups in professional tournament finals. They likely hold the record for career earnings (inflation adjusted) for siblings. Etc etc --Billymac00 02:03, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

other siblings in professional tennis have included include Maleevas(3), Everts, McEnroes, Jensens, Safins, Mal and Mashona Washington and Bryans
unadjusted career earnings

Comparatives as of ~ June 6 2013	Grand Slam titles	Career earnings, million USD	Highest ranking
Williams sisters (V/S)	22/32	30.2/63.5	1/1
Bryan brothers (Mike,Bob)	17/21 (all doubles)	10.0/10.2	1/1
Safin/Safina	2/1	14.4/10.6	1/1
Maleeva sisters (Magdalena, Katerina,Manuela)	0/0/0	4.4/2.2/3.2	4/6/3

The Bryan brothers webpage | 1 lists combined career earnings as $19.6 million. GS finals reflects the (4) majors.

This is disambiguation page

I have removed the content in the introduction because this is a disambiguation page. According to MOS:DAB, it should only contain enough content to distiguish between the articles listed. Information about the careers of these women should be included in their individual articles rather than here. SlackerMom (talk) 12:59, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Should this be a disambiguation page? Other famous doubles pairing have their own articles, including the Woodies and the Bryan brothers. Not only do the Williams' have more Grand Slam doubles titles than the Bryans, they're also easily more famous as sibling than the Bryans. Sure, most of that fame is from their individual accomplishments, but it is notable that they are sisters, as "The Williams Sisters" (in quotes) gets over 400,000 google hits. Charlesfahringer (talk) 16:20, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be perfectly appropriate to change this into an article rather than a dab page, and in fact it probably would be better. I cleaned out the previous content and made it a strict dab page because it had been tagged as such and I was making it conform to MOS:DAB as best I could. Upon reflection, however, I think it might better serve as an article. I can't write it though; I don't know enough about the subject. I think the previous content (which I removed) is no longer up-to-date, so I don't want to just stick it back in. If there is an editor who would like to change this to an article, simply remove the {disambig} tag when you do so, and I will be happy to support your work. SlackerMom (talk) 13:09, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is nothing to disambiguate here, as the page only identifies one "Williams sisters". If there were another famous pair of sisters surnamed "Williams", and known by this phrase, then there would be something to disambiguate. bd2412 T 02:19, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

When I hear Williams Sisters I immediately think of these two but then again my dog talks to me so take it as you will. ;0) P37307 (talk) 14:07, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Competing against the Williams sisters as an "achievement"

Can a list of players who were able to win over the Williams sisters in the same tournament be included here? This is something that is unique in that even the WTA and sports media have hyped such an act as an "achievement", even a highlight of other players' careers (i.e. when they mention Kim Clijsters winning the 2009 US Open, they almost always say that she defeated the Williams sisters along the way), same with Justine Henin in 2007 US Open). Probably the big reason for this is that it takes lots of effort to overcome the big game of the sisters, not to mention the luck of the draw in the tournament, as well as the case of a Williams "avenging" her sister's loss along the way. Joey80 (talk) 11:27, 3 January 2010 (UTC)hi[reply]

Are Marat and Dinara really only half siblings? I'd never heard that before... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.175.210.13 (talk) 05:44, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why is this notable?

Is victory over any player or pair of players deemed noteworthy elsewhere in Wikipedia?
... Bob and Mike Bryan? ... The Woodies? ... Roger Federer? ... Steffi Graf?
The closest I could find in a quick search was a few non-Wikipedia references to "defeating both Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal in the same tournament".

Chris Rock might consider it a complement -- inferring that, like Bill Clinton, Venus & Serena are SO famous that a win against them both is itself a cause for fame, perhaps on par with a tournament win. Still, their fame/skill seems insufficient basis for inventing a whole new "who could possibly have overcome this superhuman jugernaut" tangent.

If a one-of-a-kind "Defeated by" table is really justified, please revert the article and add a comment here.
Lonestarnot (talk) 02:39, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merger

I believe this should be merged with Williams Sisters rivalry. Enigma^msg 16:27, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here, here 92.3.155.119 (talk) 14:56, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Content from Boycott of BNP Paribas Open by Venus and Serena Williams was merged here as per afd discussion. Fyunck(click) (talk) 00:20, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that Williams sisters rivalry should be merged to this page as a section. After the 2012 Gold double win, I thought they had issues with each other and came to Williams Sisters to read about it. I only found the Williams sisters rivalry page by looking at the talk section. Not every user reads the talk. That's my 25 cents in the pot. P37307 (talk) 14:02, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect

I noticed Serena and venus williams redirects here but Venus and Serena Williams does not and you can't do a link to Serena and Venus Williams because of the caps. Could some one fix this? ReelAngelGirl Talk to me! Tea? 13:44, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I figured it out. ReelAngelGirl Talk to me! Tea? 14:07, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

London 2012

According to USA today Google Plus page the sisters won a gold medal in the doubles. https://plus.google.com/u/0/114268070748975396926/posts http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/london/tennis/story/2012-08-05/serena-venus-williams-doubles-gold/56799248/1?csp=fbfanpage I am not going to edit as I feel someone else could do a better job.

Personal note: Congrats to the sisters.

P37307 (talk) 13:54, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is it worthwhile to mention their combined grand slam tally?

They have a combined 61 grand slam titles. If I am not mistaken, this is more than that of any other siblings in the Open era.

69.166.127.48 (talk) 23:44, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Diet - Vegan?

How about the vegan diet? Does only one follow it, or do both? MaynardClark (talk) 20:57, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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NPOV - Indian Wells

The portion on the Indian Wells controversy is awkward and of suspect neutrality. Claims counter to the Williams' are not sourced. NPOV does not mean that "both sides" must be presented, regardless of merit; when a POV with less legitimacy is presented as equal to one that is more legitimate, a bias becomes apparent. This section should be revised. 2601:147:C300:B7C0:8DF:E357:D0A6:DB43 (talk) 15:50, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What sentence(s} need sourcing? Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:21, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retirement date?

Please add an extra column for Retirement Date (Month/year for Serena, N/A for Venus as she is still playing. :) Naki (talk) 17:50, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]