Talk:Wine-dark sea (Homer)

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Goethe

I'm trying to get some reliable sources for this. There is a lot of speculation. Anyway, it seems that Goethe did some writing on this, in his Theory of Colours, which might be worth mentioning (just because of his stature, whether or not it's plausible reasoning). But I don't have any first-hand or second-hand references for that. Any help? TomS TDotO (talk) 15:00, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting discussion of this online

Here is another good discussion of this topic: http://kiwihellenist.blogspot.com/2016/01/colours-in-homer-2-wine-dark-sea.html -- The Anome (talk) 06:53, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Development of Color Terms in Language

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 They hypothesized that early in a language's development of color terminology, languages would only have a few words for basic colors:

I changed "early a language's" to "early in a language's". I hope that was a good interpolation on my part. David Deardavid7 (talk) 11:42, 22 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why is there no mention of the sea looking like dark white wine in this article?

Underneath the reflection of the sky, the color of seawater looks like a darker version of white wine? Shouldn't that at least be mentioned amongst all the tangential discussion of the color blue? Slicehyperfunk (talk) 13:18, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Possible citation for alkaline water theory

https://www.nytimes.com/1983/12/20/science/homer-s-sea-wine-dark.html

IDK if a NYT article is appropriate for this sort of citation, but it also has researcher names that could be followed up on for papers or whatnot. 2603:3003:2471:0:0:0:0:D547 (talk) 17:28, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 13 September 2024

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– The Homeric phrase is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for wine-dark sea. It maintains a strong lead in pageviews (3,038 monthly average pageviews vs. 920 for all other topics combined, ever since this article was moved to its current title in 2019), and as a well-known idiom from Homeric poetry it also has greater long-term significance than the other topics that share its name. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:10, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support yes primary by long-term significance and probably usage for the lower case per WP:DIFFCAPS but move the DAB to Wine Dark Sea per WP:DABNAME. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:57, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Srnec (talk) 00:58, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support this move; not sure what the best title for the disambiguation page is—I would probably hyphenate it as well, though other uses may or may not be hyphenated, and redirect the unhyphenated form there. Anyone aware of the original will probably search for it hyphenated. P Aculeius (talk) 13:37, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support However the DAB page needs to be moved to Wine Dark Sea per WP:DIFFCAPS. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:55, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]