Talk:World Judo Championships
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All time medal count
[edit]The table of medals is wrong. See this source http://www.judo2009.com/en/?page=cms&sub=showpage&id=40. I'll correct this.--Italodal (talk) 16:21, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Kata W Ch
[edit]Maybe incorporate World Judo Kata Championships. 213.149.62.98 (talk) 19:36, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
@Hyperion82: I've undid your edit. Please see sources in the 2003 World Judo Championships & 2005 World Judo Championships articles. To prevent future incidents like this, perhaps sources should be attached to the Judo Team World Championships section as they are attached to the Competitions by year section. I'll try to get to it soon. CLalgo (talk) 09:17, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- I checked information at the official site of the International Judo Federation - [1]. There is no any mentioning about team competition. I also read articles about last day of Championships at the old archieved version. There is also no any information about it - [2] ; [3] and [4] . See article "World Championship by Team of Nation" - there is no any mentioning about 2003 & 2005 editions ([5] and [6]). Perhaps, team events took place during 2003 & 2005 World Judo Championships, but it had no official status of World Team Championships (and instead were more like exhibition competitions)? Sorry, but I think you need to find any OFFICIAL link about it. --Hyperion82 (talk) 09:38, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Hyperion82: Have you seen this link from the IJF's old website? CLalgo (talk) 09:46, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, I didn't see this link before. But its title says "Promotional Team Event", so I still not sure about official World Championships status of these team competitions. The other article is titled - "Draw sheet for 2005 Promotional Team Championships by Nations" (in contrast with titles of other related articles like Daily Report of 2005 World Judo Championships - Day 4 or Results of 2005 World Judo Championships - 4 day. That's why I think that it was some kind of unofficial (commercial) team competitions which were held at same venue and period and therefore should not be mentioned in the article about official World Judo Championships. --Hyperion82 (talk) 10:36, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- I see your point. Without more sources, I do lean to meat you half way. Available sources will be added to the "Judo Team World Championships" section as they are present at the "Competitions by year" section, and the 2003 & 2005 team events will be clearly marked as promotional in both articles and templates. What do you say? CLalgo (talk) 10:56, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- I think it's better to remove 2003 & 2005 team results from Judo Team World Championships section at the World Judo Championships article or, at least, to distinguish it by italic font or by some other way in order to separate it from results of the official World Team Championships. As you can see, previously I added few medal tables into this main article (different medal counts and Multiple gold medalists section). So, it will be wrong either to confuse readers or to add 2003 & 2005 team results into overall medal statistics. --Hyperion82 (talk) 20:18, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- I have no objections to distinguishing 2003 & 2005 by italic font, and a grayish background color could be added as well. CLalgo (talk) 07:51, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- I think it's better to remove 2003 & 2005 team results from Judo Team World Championships section at the World Judo Championships article or, at least, to distinguish it by italic font or by some other way in order to separate it from results of the official World Team Championships. As you can see, previously I added few medal tables into this main article (different medal counts and Multiple gold medalists section). So, it will be wrong either to confuse readers or to add 2003 & 2005 team results into overall medal statistics. --Hyperion82 (talk) 20:18, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- I see your point. Without more sources, I do lean to meat you half way. Available sources will be added to the "Judo Team World Championships" section as they are present at the "Competitions by year" section, and the 2003 & 2005 team events will be clearly marked as promotional in both articles and templates. What do you say? CLalgo (talk) 10:56, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, I didn't see this link before. But its title says "Promotional Team Event", so I still not sure about official World Championships status of these team competitions. The other article is titled - "Draw sheet for 2005 Promotional Team Championships by Nations" (in contrast with titles of other related articles like Daily Report of 2005 World Judo Championships - Day 4 or Results of 2005 World Judo Championships - 4 day. That's why I think that it was some kind of unofficial (commercial) team competitions which were held at same venue and period and therefore should not be mentioned in the article about official World Judo Championships. --Hyperion82 (talk) 10:36, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Hyperion82: Have you seen this link from the IJF's old website? CLalgo (talk) 09:46, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Russian Judo Federation, Individual Neutral Athletes & International Judo Federation links
[edit]@Hyperion82: This discussion's purpose is the avoid an edit war. The table below shows the display text in both of our versions. The next column shows that text's target when linked and the final one shows the target that was piped to.
Displayed text | Linked | Piped target |
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Russian Judo Federation | Russian Judo Federation | Russia |
Individual Neutral Athletes | Individual Neutral Athletes | Authorised Neutral Athletes |
International Judo Federation | International Judo Federation | Majlinda Kelmendi |
Reason to avoid above pipes:
- Russian Judo Federation is the name that was in use at the 2021 World Judo Championships following the Russia doping ban specifically to reduce connection to the Russian state, as
Russia can’t use its name and flag at the next 2 Olympics
[1] principle that was implemented for that World Championships, as van be seen in the official medal table.[2] - Individual Neutral Athletes is the name used by the IJF.[3] The word "Authorised" Doesn't appear in that statement, nor does the Authorised Neutral Athletes article references either judo or the AIN.
- International Judo Federation linking this text to Majlinda Kelmendi is an Easter Egg the should be avoided, per MOS:EASTEREGG and MOS:LINKCLARITY.
Therefore, I've removed those links. Please do not re-add them before explaining here first the reasoning for such an action. CLalgo (talk) 09:53, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
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