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Merger Proposal

This page is merely the Psalms entry, from an Islamic perspective. It should be merged into the Psalms article under an Islamic subheading. I should really be revising for my exams so I won't actually merge it until the 10th - ample time, I think, to have a discussion if anyone objects. Dev920 15:38, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Psalms and the Zabur are not necessarily the same, as the first line of the article indicates. If a merger is to be made, then this point should be emphasised straight away. At the moment, I'm against the merger because there is a difference in usage of the term 'Psalms' as used by Muslims and some non-Muslims. MP (talk) 08:02, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, Zabur, according to the article on South Arabian alphabet is the cursive form of the Musand script. This page of the article titled Zabur is linked to from that article's page. I suggest that this page be turned into a disambiguation page. --Alif 19:38, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am also against the merger because it would be equating two separate religions being one and the same, which is generally not the case. User:Lord Hawk 22:48, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Until more arguements can be put forward for their merger, I am removing the tag to get this out of the backlog. Orchid Righteous 08:45, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is this an actual text?

Hello, a question that is not answered in this article: Is the Zabur an actual, existing text that I could find at a mosque or in an Islamic bookstore? -- 84.130.61.148 10:16, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

According to Islamic beliefs, the answer to your question is no. Muslims hold the view that the Zabur was a 'pure' (uncorrupted, unchanged) revelation, but that it no longer exists in that pure form. However, some people equate the Zabur with the Psalms as we now have them. MP (talk) 22:18, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Strange enough, that we also talk about 150 chapters and five sections. For me, this structure indicates, that we talk about almost the same book. -- Arne List 18:55, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Then the article should introduce Zabur as a legendary book, see Talk:Injil#Confusing. Said: Rursus (☻) 23:51, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Zabur or whatever been revealed to David, has it got anything to do with the traditional religious practices in Indian sub-continental? Can you please leave your answer as a mail to iiahmadabdullah@yahoo.com?

ZABUR IN SONG FORM —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.153.41.100 (talk) 05:51, 21 February 2008 (UTC) zabur in plain human language means songs in praise of God. even though Islam prohibits any kind of singing. but it is a fact that zabur is available in classical song form in the form of Punjabi-Urudu mixed language liricswhich are around a hundreed year old. This year the one of the best recordings oon Zabutr has been released~[Rev. Bino Rajeshwar Johnson - clownslave @yahoo.com] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.153.41.100 (talk) 05:47, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to hear that Zabur has been interpreted and recorded - keeps it alive for future generations of Muslims and ahl-e kitab (People of the Book - Christians, Jews, Samaritans). By the way, singing is not prohibited in Islam, as long as that singing is done in the name of Allah and the correct forms of Islamic behaviour 'adab' are maintained - therefore your recording of Zabur, if done in this spirit, is not haram and can even be rendered as a sunna: "We bestowed Grace aforetime on David from ourselves: "O ye Mountains! Sing ye back the Praises of Allah with him! and ye birds (also)! And We made the iron soft for him" Qur'an 34:10. --Musa Emre (talk) 21:06, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Mazmour"

The term "al-mazmur" (المزمور) does not appear in the Quran and cannot be associated with "Zabur" in this manner. The association is speculative and may only be mentioned later in the article with proper citations. The reference given for footnote 1 is wholly irrelevant to the topic. 2600:1011:A01D:5E68:B05C:B57D:9AB3:E21B (talk) 05:58, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]