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Requested move 22 January 2024

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus for the general, consensus for the footballer. Consensus that the footballer is not the primary topic, but no consensus that the general is - I would suggest waiting a few months and seeing whether the view disparity continues and if it does opening a new move request. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 11:37, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]


– Requesting move from "Zaw Min Tun (general)" to "Zaw Min Tun" for better article visibility and to adhere standard naming practices, and also the reason is not to be confused with footballer Zaw Min Tun, but the general is generally more popular and relevant. Thanks! . KhantExploreWiki KhantWiki (talk) 19:02, 22 January 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 11:58, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neither appears on ngrams or google scholars. Based on a cursory google search and the sources in each article: the general is most prominent as a voice of the military's justifications for the 2021 Myanmar coup d'état. Many sources on the general's page are primary issued by his ministry but some secondary reliable sources include diplomat article, RFA article,. Thai PBS article citing MRTV appearance, Reuters news video and Asean Post articles. In contrast for the footballer, there are sources covering him but they are mostly databases like Soccer Way and national football teams. Beyond routine coverage, I only found these non-WP:INDEPENDENT AFF Mitsubishi Cup interview and accompanying article on a cursory google search. The links to references on his page have since been deprecated and I couldn't verify any of the secondary sources used.
So, based on the lack of substantive secondary sources talking about the footballer, I think the verifiable primary topic is the general.
I also make a qualitative argument that the minister of information and the main spokesperson justifying the coup from the junta's perspective is more likely to have long-term education significance and WP:NPOV discussions relating to the coup. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 16:51, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely, Thank You. The general is clearly the verifiable primary topic and is clearly more relevant than the footballer. He's more prominent and relevant based on his political and his voice for the stance of politics and also for the Myanmar coup d'état, he is included on many news articles and sources unlike the footballer Zaw Min Tun with lack of secondary sources and details. The general is included on many news articles and websites and more relevant and popular and hence he deserves the name Zaw Min Tun instead of the footballer who might not be as relevant as the general, as of now. KhantWiki (talk) 17:22, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per EmeraldRange and nom. Jebiguess (talk) 00:17, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisting comment: For a clearer consensus if the general is the primary topic. – robertsky (talk) 11:58, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.