Talk:Zock Allen
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Reviewer: Bcschneider53 (talk · contribs) 21:53, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
Will review. --Bcschneider53 (talk) 21:53, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
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[edit]- Maybe a slight expansion would be useful here?
Professional career
[edit]- "In late August, the Lions moved Allen to the practice squad and replaced him with new signing Bruce Holmes, who had led the CFL in tackles the previous season with the Ottawa Rough Riders.[4][6][7] Allen finished his rookie season with 31 tackles, two sacks, and a fumble recovery over six games played.[8]" So it appears he was called up from the practice squad at some point...when exactly was that?
- @Bcschneider53: I don't believe they did, actually. Keep in mind the CFL season starts substantially earlier than the NFL in early July, so a move in late August is already 6-8 weeks into the season (depending on exact start date/move time). The sources aren't 100% clear on this (and often don't include information on healthy scratches where a player is on the active roster but designated not to play in a game), but I think the six games were all before his move to the practice squad. ~ Rob13Talk 05:15, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
- "He was quickly brought back to the active roster, though, and recorded five tackles in the Lions' season-opening win against the Toronto Argonauts.[13]" Suggested rewrite: "Despite this, he was quickly brought back to the active roster and recorded five tackles in the Lions' season-opening win against the Toronto Argonauts.[13]"
- I'm not a fan of "Despite this" when not clearly warranted, because it adds a bit of an editorial spin on things (e.g. suddenly a routine move to the practice squad for a marginal player sounds like a major career setback). How about just dropping the "though" bit? I agree it makes things sound kind of awkward. I tried that out in the article but welcome additional feedback on this sentence. ~ Rob13Talk 05:15, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
- Dropping the though works for me :) --Bcschneider53 (talk) 11:27, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not a fan of "Despite this" when not clearly warranted, because it adds a bit of an editorial spin on things (e.g. suddenly a routine move to the practice squad for a marginal player sounds like a major career setback). How about just dropping the "though" bit? I agree it makes things sound kind of awkward. I tried that out in the article but welcome additional feedback on this sentence. ~ Rob13Talk 05:15, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
Not much as usual. Assuming good faith as all the sources are offline. Placing on hold. --Bcschneider53 (talk) 21:59, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
- I'll tackle the lead tomorrow. Not sure how much can be expanded, but I'll try to squeeze out another sentence or two. In case you're wondering where I'm accessing the offline sources or if you have access to this database, I use LexisNexis Academic almost exclusively. They have a great collection of Canadian newspapers. ~ Rob13Talk 05:15, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
- That's great. I'm sure it's been a valuable resource for you! --Bcschneider53 (talk) 11:27, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
- I added some info on his college career. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 19:42, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
- @WikiOriginal-9 and BU Rob13: Well done. Passing for GA. --Bcschneider53 (talk) 13:56, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
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