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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Vanamonde (talk) 07:03, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
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150th anniversary of Canada
[edit]... that Canada is now celebrating the sesquicentennial anniversary of Canadian Confederation? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
Created/expanded by Shawn in Montreal (talk). Self-nominated at 20:20, 8 February 2017 (UTC).
- This isn't a comprehensive article yet. It's a vast subject. Is it too soon? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:26, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
- Comment: your hook needs work, as it doesn't link to the article about the sesquicentennial. Rephrase it to link to 150th anniversary of Canada. I've provided a few alternates. Mindmatrix 21:04, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
- ALT1:
... that for the 150th anniversary of Canada, the official flower sports the national colours, a tulip with white petals bearing red markings similar to flames? - ALT2:
... that for the 150th anniversary of Canada in 2017, national parks and historic sites will have free access? - ALT3:
... that to celebrate its sesquicentennial, the Government of Canada released a commemorative banknote, bred a red and white tulip, and granted free access to its national parks?
- Oh right of course. I knew something was off. I'm loathe to focus on one or just a few things, as there's so many events going on. Is this too mercantile:
- ALT4: ... that for the 150th anniversary of Canada, the government of Canada will be spending an estimated half billion dollars on sesquicentennial events?
- If that is a bit too bland, I kind of like your ALT2, as Canada and national parks are kinda synonymous I think. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:11, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
- I bolded all subjects and struck ALT2 because readers would expect an article about sesquicentennial, - a rewording might work. I may also review, but will first look at the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:03, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
My rewording of ALT2 would be:
- ALT5:
... that the Canada 150 tulip was bred to celebrate the 150th anniversary of Canada, showing the national colours? - Detailed article, well referenced, no copyvio, - just let me know, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:12, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
- My only concern there is that the primary topic then becomes the pre-existing stub Canada 150 tulip, doesn't it? Which is too old for DYK and a bare bones stub. I mean, I know you've bolded the second link but the whole hook is about the tulip. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:22, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
- I usually try to get the topic first, compare my comments on the noms page. However (and I usually try to avoid however) in this case I like the snappy Canada 150, and the name of the flower comes close, but if we pipe the article name to it it becomes shorter and less visible, will illustrate:
- ALT6:
... that for Canada 150, a tulip in the national colours was bred? - I'd usually delink the stub in ALT5, but in this case the light blue looks prettier than quotation marks, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:49, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
- I personally don't care much about the tulip. But if people like it, fine by me. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:53, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
- Phrase something short you care about, but not a long list, striking the overly wordy ones, - we need just one thing attraction a click, not say it all and the readers will not click. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
- Circling back for a moment, what's wrong with ALT2? It is specifically mentioned in the article that Parks Canada is making access to the national parks free for the sesquicentennial year. (See this CBC story, for example.) I'm not saying this should be the hook, but I find the reason for striking it odd. Mindmatrix 00:43, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- Funny, I was going to say so as well, for the reasons I'd mentioned above. I was also thinking we could just drop this DYK thing if people wanted: but yes the Canada Parks thing is a natural, and leaves 150 Canada as the true primary topic in the hook. I suppose you could link it as:
- Circling back for a moment, what's wrong with ALT2? It is specifically mentioned in the article that Parks Canada is making access to the national parks free for the sesquicentennial year. (See this CBC story, for example.) I'm not saying this should be the hook, but I find the reason for striking it odd. Mindmatrix 00:43, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- Phrase something short you care about, but not a long list, striking the overly wordy ones, - we need just one thing attraction a click, not say it all and the readers will not click. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
- I personally don't care much about the tulip. But if people like it, fine by me. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:53, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
- My only concern there is that the primary topic then becomes the pre-existing stub Canada 150 tulip, doesn't it? Which is too old for DYK and a bare bones stub. I mean, I know you've bolded the second link but the whole hook is about the tulip. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:22, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
- ALT2a:
... that for the 150th anniversary of Canada in 2017, there's free access to national parks, historic sites and marine conservation areas?
- But we'd better change it to the present tense, too. How's that? Shawn in Montreal (talk)
- Present tense is much better! I struck it mostly for that "will be" crystal ball ;) - What do you think of this:
- ALT7: ... that to celebrate the 150th anniversary of Canada in 2017, access to national parks, historic sites and marine conservation areas is free? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:23, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- Okay but isn't "access to... is free" kind of passive voice? That's why I tried swicthing it around. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 12:57, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- Who is active in "There's free access"? English is not my first language, DYK? - What I know is that we don't write "don't" in articles and hooks, so thought we better also don't write "there's" ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:07, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- Okay but isn't "access to... is free" kind of passive voice? That's why I tried swicthing it around. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 12:57, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- I guess your way's find then. Fine by me. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:53, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
enjoy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:49, 16 February 2017 (UTC)