Template:Did you know nominations/2019 U.S. Open Cup Final

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 23:21, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

2019 U.S. Open Cup Final

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• ... that tonight's U.S. Open Cup Final will be sixth that Minnesota United FC midfielder Osvaldo Alonso will play in? Source: U.S. Soccer
  • ALT1:... that the finalists in tonight's U.S. Open Cup Final both joined Major League Soccer as expansion teams during the same season? Source: Pro Soccer USA (part of Tribune Publishing)

• Reviewed: Ben Kimondiu
• Comment: Would prefer to run this on the day of the final (August 27 for Eastern U.S., but just after midnight UTC).

Created by SounderBruce (talk). Self-nominated at 06:19, 9 August 2019 (UTC).

• The article is new enough, long enough, and policy-compliant. QPQ is done. I struck the main hook because even though it is cited, there is a small possibility that Alonso could be injured or miss the final for some other reason. As such, this statement is speculative (not a definite fact) and thus is not compliant with criterion 3a. ALT1 is cited, more concrete, and somewhat interesting, so I’m giving it a pass.
• @SounderBruce: Regarding your question on timing, I would recommend 12:00 UTC on 27 August. DYK is currently being updated every 12 hours, and the hook would then be displayed on the Main Page for exactly the 12 hours before kickoff (20:00 EDT = 00:00 UTC). How does this sound to you? ComplexRational (talk) 13:11, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
  • @ComplexRational: I don't think it's necessarily fair to strike out the Alonso hook until he is ruled out. As the team's captain, he will be starting unless he is physically unable to. SounderBruce 04:30, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

• Seeing as he is the team captain, I undid the strike, but it still doesn't appear to be a definite fact as mandated by criterion 3a. It also is a borderline case of a predicted lineup, which is inherently unreliable and speculative (mentioned in WP:BALL).
• As such, I still feel that ALT1 is still preferable, because it is concrete right now and the Alonso hook will only be concrete hours before (i.e. when it is on the main page, not in the queue). Nevertheless, I'll let the final reviewers decide if it is appropriate. ComplexRational (talk) 07:10, 18 August 2019 (UTC)