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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 05:23, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

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Antonio Berti (sculptor)

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  • ... that sculptor Antonio Berti mentored other sculptors, among them American sculptor Frank Varga? "Ferenc Csaba Varga". lorneandsons.com.

Created by Evrik (talk). Self-nominated at 18:30, 15 May 2020 (UTC).

Comment: I looked at the article. Striking ALT1 which has two direct links to the Italian Wikipedia, which will not be accepted, also the church and the person will probably not attract many, and the image is poor. I looked at which image is good, and came up with
[[File:|120px|Statue of Foscolo in Santa Croce ]]
Statue of Foscolo in Santa Croce
ALT2: ... that the Italian sculptor Antonio Berti made a statue of Ugo Foscolo (pictured) for his tomb in Santa Croce, Florence? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:01, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
The article says bust here, statue there, - to my understanding it's a statue. The portrayed man was a poet and revolutionary, which might add extra interest if mentioned in the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:01, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT1a: ... that while he was an official sculptor of the Holy See, Antonio Berti sculpted busts of Pius XII, Louise de Marillac, and a statue of Giulio Facibeni on the square in front of the Church of Santo Stefano in Pane?
  • Thank you for the help, Gerda. --evrik (talk) 16:46, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Note: ALT1a struck as it is too long, at 212 prose characters. Perhaps an ALT1b can be fashioned that comes in at under 200 characters? BlueMoonset (talk) 22:34, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT1b: ... that while an official sculptor of the Holy See, Antonio Berti sculpted busts of Pius XII and Louise de Marillac, and a statue of Giulio Facibeni for the Church of Santo Stefano in Pane?
  • Full review needed now that hooks are set. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:10, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Full review: New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced. As all sources are foreign-language, unable to check for close paraphrasing. QPQ done. I have added two "citation needed" tags, including one that verifies the ALT1b hook fact. Per recent discussion at WT:DYK, I don't think the unlinked Giulio Facibeni or the church is going to be accepted on the main page. Images in article freely licensed. Yoninah (talk) 21:55, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
  • If memory serves me, this site confirms the details of the hook (in English). I can look for better sources, but they won't be in English. --evrik (talk) 03:11, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
  • I've looked at the source given for ALT1b and can see no evidence at the fonderiamarinelli link and sublinks (which have very little in the way of specific information), nor any of the other of the first three sources, that the statue of Facibeni was done as part of Berti's duties as official sculptor to the Holy See, nor when that period actually was. Indeed, I don't see anything relevant and specific about the various works mentioned in the entire first paragraph under Monuments, including the other two mentioned busts, and I did paste the various Italian material into Google translate. Either better sourcing is needed or a completely new hook is needed; in the meantime, I have struck ALT1b as unsupported, so a new hook will be needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:25, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT3: ... that sculptor Antonio Berti designed the bronze casket used to house the wooden coffin of Pope Pius XI? Spike, John T. (2007-02-19). "The Marinelli Foundry Of Florence - An Overview". Reardon, Wendy J. (2010). The Deaths of the Popes: Comprehensive Accounts, Including Funerals, Burial Places and Epitaphs. McFarland. p. 240.

--evrik (talk) 04:28, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

  • ALT3 is interesting, is cited inline and verified. Rest of the review per Yoninah. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:43, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
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