Template:Did you know nominations/Cemal Azmi

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The result was: promoted by Carabinieri (talk) 03:48, 7 March 2013 (UTC).

Cemal Azmi

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• ... that Ottoman politician Cemal Azmi was known as the "butcher of Trabzon" for his role in the Armenian Genocide?

Created by Proudbolsahye (talk). Self nom at 10:01, 14 February 2013 (UTC).

• Reviewed: Sphecodopsis

• I think your DYK is good to go (but it's the first review). Ajayupai95 (talk) 13:32, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
• I have no problem with offline/foreign language sources or this hook personally, but an article and hook which call a Turkish politician the "butcher of Trabzon" is likely to be contentious. A google search of "butcher of Trabzon" yields no results other than this article. Is there any way you can provide a scan of the English language books which contain this term applied to the subject of the article or alternately an English online source which does the same? VictorianMutant^(Talk)

• Issues fixed. Proudbolsahye (talk) 20:23, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

• Have just fixed the odd issues introduced on this page by Ajayupai95, including an extra DYKmake template. One issue that still needs addressing is that I find no sign of a QPQ review having been done: the "Reviewed" line was added in error, and I don't see any review being claimed by Proudbolsahye before or since. I think at some point after the QPQ has been fulfilled a full review of age, size, referencing, close paraphrasing, etc., needs to be done by someone who is conversant with DYK rules and can explain just what was reviewed. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:20, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

• Added QPQ. Proudbolsahye (talk) 06:10, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

• New full review needed, including whether previous issues have been addressed as needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:39, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

• Article is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, no close paraphrasing seen. Regarding the hook, I disagree with VictorianMutant about the hook being "contentious". Proudbolsahye has adequately sourced the name "butcher of Trabzon" with 5 citations, in English and Turkish, and the hook has been tweaked to "Ottoman politician" rather than "Turkish politician". QPQ done. IMO, the hook is reasonable and catchy. Hook ref verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:55, 6 March 2013 (UTC)