Template:Did you know nominations/Church of St Thomas, Thurstonland

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The result was: promoted by Orlady (talk) 18:25, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Church of St Thomas, Thurstonland

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... that the nave of the Church of St Thomas, Thurstonland, England, contains an arch-braced hammerbeam roof (pictured)?

ALT1:... that Reverend Robert Boyle Thompson, the first vicar of the Church of St Thomas, Thurstonland had done "great work" in the slums of Seven Dials?
Reviewed: King Star King, West Branch Fishing Creek

Moved to mainspace by Storye book (talk). Self nominated at 21:01, 26 May 2014 (UTC).

This is an interesting article, which is new enough, long enough, supported by a variety of sources and written in a neutral tone, with no evidence of close paraphrasing or copyvio from the online sources I could access (there are lots of offline sources where I AGF). It is well illustrated (I've left a few comments about images on the article talk page) and the image selected for the nomination is suitably licenced and shows up quite well at 100px. The first hook about the hammerbeam roof is supported by a reliable source. ALT1 has an offline citation. Could this nomination be combined with the one above for George Lloyd (archaeologist) who was the first vicar of this church?— Rod ^talk 19:08, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the review - much appreciated. Re combining this nom with George Lloyd (archaeologist) - that would be my preference also - but combined noms have been a problem for me in the recent past. We are very stretched for reviewers right now, and a fair proportion of them are new reviewers. Some reviewers have found my typically long and complex articles hard work to review already, and I did receive one comment saying that putting two of them together could be offputting to at least some reviewers, and would therefore cause a delay for my noms - and that turned out to be true. But if you would be kind enough to do a big double review, then I'll be happy to combine my noms on this occasion. I should add that the nom queue page today is showing the strain - when I looked at it, the queue slots were empty, and the front page slots had been extended to 12 hours to allow admin to catch up. I'll guess I'll try to help by doing a few reviews myself today. --Storye book (talk) 07:25, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

OK if we are short of noms leaving them separate seems reasonable. This may just serve as a note to whoever is filling the queue not to put them in the same set.— Rod ^talk 08:22, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

I don't see why the two noms cannot be in the same set. ALT1 refers to Rev. Robert Boyle Thompson, who was the first vicar to use the newly-built church - it was begun and completed during his ministry. Rev. George Lloyd was the preceding curate of Thurstonland who had to use a borrowed chapel, and the reason for his inclusion in the Thurstonland Church article is that it was Lloyd's archeological connections which attracted the interest of the Earl of Dartmouth who funded Collins' archaeology, and who then (after Lloyd left) funded the building of Thurstonland Church. If Lloyd hadn't existed, there would have been no church building, as the locals were too poor and there were no local bigwigs to fund it. --Storye book (talk) 09:17, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
Sorry I should have added my apology for the ambiguity of ALT1 - I have now clarified it. Please could you kindly repeat the green tick below this conversation, to clarify that it is still valid? Thank you. --Storye book (talk) 09:22, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

I think ALT 1 is AGF. On Wikipedia:Did you know/Guide it says "Try to include items from varied fields of interest, time periods, and parts of the world." and on Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas "Try to avoid having two hooks of the same general type next to one another in the update". I think this is to try to appeal to a wide range of readers, but these sorts of decisions are for those filling the prep areas/queue.— Rod ^talk 09:28, 31 May 2014 (UTC)