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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:12, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Felix Römer

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  • ... that historian Felix Römer found that 85% of German WWII frontline divisions implemented the infamous Commissar Order, contrary to post-war denials? Source: Kellerhoff, Sven Felix (2016). "Criminal Nazi Orders: "It is a war of extermination"". Die Welt.
    • ALT1:... that historian Felix Römer found that the majority of German POWs supported Hitler into the last year of World War II?

Improved to Good Article status by K.e.coffman (talk). Self-nominated at 00:08, 19 October 2018 (UTC).

  • Good article criteria verified. The article is long enough and the hook short enough. It is neutral, no copyright violation detected. The German language sources for hook confirms the numbers and while 85% is not explicitly mentioned in the article it is a permissible standard calculation (116 out of 137 Divisions = 85%). I have however a query on Alt1. I can't find the statement in the article that the majority of German POWs supported Hitler into the last year of World War II and the source does not state that either. It only confirms that the majority of German soldiers supported Hitler into the last year of World War II. I think the POW bit should just be changed to soldiers as that is a verifiable statement. Turismond (talk) 04:08, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
  • @Turismond: I think that the context of the Felix Römer page makes it clear that Römer was surveying POW's conversations, but it was not apparent from the section where I sourced A1 from. I made this change to the article: [1]; does this address the concern? K.e.coffman (talk) 06:41, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
  • @K.e.coffman: To be honest, not quite. The source, Focus, never mention's that the majority of German POW supported Hitler, it only states about the 3,000 Fort Hunt prisoners: Die Mehrheit stand bis weit ins letzte Kriegsjahr hinter Hitler, und für die meisten von ihnen war es selbstverständlich, sich im Krieg für die Nation einzusetzen. (The majority backed Hitler far into the last year of the war, and for most of them it was natural to support their nation in times of war. This statement, to me, refers only to the 3,000 Fort Hunt POW, not the millions of German POW everywhere else. It would be an assumption, correct or incorrect, that the majority of those felt the same. As an example, 3,000 German POW captured at Stalingrad may have had a very different opinion on Hitler and the war than those 3,000 in the US. I think, the hook is therefore to broad. Turismond (talk) 07:01, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
  • I would not mind striking it; I personally find ALT0 to be more interesting. K.e.coffman (talk) 07:05, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
  • I would be fine with that, too. ALT0 is fully supported by the reference and a good option. Turismond (talk) 07:36, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
  • All good to go from my side. Turismond (talk) 07:41, 21 October 2018 (UTC)