Template:Did you know nominations/Grevillea mucronulata

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The result was: promoted by PumpkinSky talk 21:36, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Grevillea mucronulata

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... that the Grevillea mucronulata (pictured) was the first grevillea known to science?

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Long Short Cut
Comment: ALT1 -

5x expanded by Casliber (talk), Melburnian (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 00:58, 22 June 2013 (UTC).

Fails criteria. I get "Article has not been created or expanded 5x within the past 10 days" when I do a DYK check with the script.
--Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 05:41, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Try expanding it more and inform me again if this DYK needs a 2nd review, but make sure it meets all the criteria. --Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 05:45, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

this version has 1127 B (185 words) "readable prose size", while the current version has 5508 B (884 words) "readable prose size". i.e. word count is ok but not bytes. I will add a bit. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:42, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Insert less drastic issue tag. Cas, Melburnian hasn't done any of the expansion for DYK, so he shouldn't get credit. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:43, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Melburnian started the article in the first place and did a chunk of formatting in the first bit. They way I see it I am pretty loose/generous in sharing credits - if it does encourage collaborative editing then all the better. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:59, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
NB - article is now 5879 B (949 words) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:30, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Article has been expanded; need to confirm whether it's a 5x expansion (prose character expansion), and also the other usual criteria, which don't seem to have been checked as yet. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:41, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but I think you were a little too late. Assuming article is at 5x now, expansion began 35 edits ago on June 21, 2013. Article has not been created or expanded 5x within the past 10 days (11 days) Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 11:24, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

No, this is eligible for a full review. It was nominated on June 22, and it currently has a 5x expansion from June 21. If an article does not quite meet the expansion criteria initially, as discovered in a review, we let the nominator know and the article can be brought into compliance even if that takes several days or more. Here, it has been expanded sufficiently, so a full review is warranted. Note that in this case, the expansion was actually completed on June 25, four days after the expansion began on June 21, so it should have qualified even under the strictest interpretation of the rules (which is not how it works in practice); the fact that you as a reviewer (or I) didn't return until July 3 is irrelevant, or that DYKcheck was run on that day. DYKcheck is more useful for whether a 5x expansion has taken place, and less useful for the number of days, as it bases that on the current date being the day of the expansion's end, and not on the date the 5x expansion was actually achieved. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:12, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

expansion fine, good sources. The hook: to speak of an unknown thing referring to the same unknown thing doesn't help me, with a picture that doesn't show much that size ;) - What do think of mentioning the stamp, - as a fact for the general public? Or at least say something like "the first spider flower"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:54, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

I can make it slighlty more accessible as:

ALT1... that the green spider flower (pictured) was the first grevillea known to science?

Grevilleas are a huge genus of ~400 species of flowering plant, many of which are cultivated as garden plants in Australia and to some extent the US and England, so the term is familiar to many. Only a few species are called spider flowers so the term doesn't generalise. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:06, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

I just thought about it again just now and I think I would accept it, since it is only 1–2 days late, and considering all your hard work. But I'm equally fine with both hooks, so I will rather let the promoter decide. Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 11:58, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

offline source accepted AGF, ALT1 preferred, it was not late at all, happy planting, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:20, 4 July 2013 (UTC)