Template:Did you know nominations/Hoang Thi Minh Hong
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 02:02, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
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Hoàng Thị Minh Hồng
- ... that Hoàng Thị Minh Hồng inspired Barack Obama? Source: In 2018, U.S. President Barack Obama described Hong as one of the young people worldwide who inspired him https://apnews.com/article/vietnam-climate-activist-prison-jailed-5f18dcbcbc839de4c479c475b8b552f6
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Plant (2nd nomination)
- Comment: Translated from the Vietnamese article
Created by Chidgk1 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:59, 28 September 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hoang Thi Minh Hong; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
@Chidgk1: New enough and long enough. QPQ present. I think the article needs more prose work as it is awkward in places like you might expect from a translation (three examples below). I am looking at this article and finding the hook uninteresting because it begs the question "how" or "why". More information about Hồng's body of environmental work/activism would really help this hook. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 16:16, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- "a dynamic local non-profit organization" seems you translated a WP:WEASEL word there
- Ms. Hồng we don't use "Ms." and "Mr." in this context
- about the arrest of a well-known environmental campaigner in Vietnam We know who this is; why does this text dance around it?
- Hmm... The structure of the article makes a good hook hard because there's things that would be BLP vios in a hook and things that would be really puffy. Maybe maybe... I can't verify this as a hook as the source is in Vietnamese. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:22, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that environmental activist Hoàng Thị Minh Hồng was the first Vietnamese person to set foot in Antarctica?
@Sammi Brie: I don't have any Vietnamese either. I have added a little more about Hồng's body of environmental work/activism as you suggested. How about
- ALT2: ... that Hoàng Thị Minh Hồng's environmental activism inspired Barack Obama? Source: In 2018, U.S. President Barack Obama described Hong as one of the young people worldwide who inspired him https://apnews.com/article/vietnam-climate-activist-prison-jailed-5f18dcbcbc839de4c479c475b8b552f6
- @Sammi Brie: Another ping. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:14, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
- No wonder I missed it, it was a ping without a timestamp. I am...not happy with the way this article reads still. It's just not Main Page-ready, even if one of the hooks (I prefer ALT1) is workable. It needs a copyedit, preferably from someone familiar with the Vietnamese original. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:08, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
- OK I will do a copyedit - ping me if I have not done it in 3 or 4 days. Chidgk1 (talk) 06:44, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: I have copyedited and changed a couple of Vietnamese cites for English. If there is anything else I should do please let me know. Chidgk1 (talk) 14:32, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- OK I will do a copyedit - ping me if I have not done it in 3 or 4 days. Chidgk1 (talk) 06:44, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
- No wonder I missed it, it was a ping without a timestamp. I am...not happy with the way this article reads still. It's just not Main Page-ready, even if one of the hooks (I prefer ALT1) is workable. It needs a copyedit, preferably from someone familiar with the Vietnamese original. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:08, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: Another ping. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:14, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Hoàng Thị Minh Hồng's environmental activism inspired Barack Obama? Source: In 2018, U.S. President Barack Obama described Hong as one of the young people worldwide who inspired him https://apnews.com/article/vietnam-climate-activist-prison-jailed-5f18dcbcbc839de4c479c475b8b552f6
I am...still chewing. The prose is fine. But the hook fact is the next concern. I'm going to leave this for someone else to see if ALT1 in particular is workable. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 05:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
