Template:Did you know nominations/Ibn Hawshab
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 00:57, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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Ibn Hawshab
- ... that at the turn of the 10th century, the da'i Ibn Hawshab brought Isma'ilism to Yemen, founding a community that survives to this day? Halm, p. 179: "während aber die nördliche der beiden jemenitischen 'Inseln', die des Ibn Haušab, sich behauptete und noch heute besteht"
- ALT1:... that the Isma'ili leader Ibn Hawshab had to surrender his son as hostage to a rival, who returned him after a year with a golden necklace as a gift? Madelung: "In Ramaḍān 299/April 912, Ibn Ḥaws̲h̲ab was forced to sue for peace and to surrender his son to ʿAlī b. al-Faḍl as a token of his submission. The latter returned the son to him a year later with a golden necklace."
- Reviewed: Danamandıra
Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self-nominated at 17:28, 26 June 2020 (UTC).
QPQ not done. Article is currently in the middle of copyediting due to GAN, and there are a couple of clear errors that are possibly in the middle of being corrected. I find the hook interesting, but it may be worth considering if other hooks are possible, such as the betrayal of the purported caliph, or his hostage son returning with a golden necklace. AGFing on the sources. CMD (talk) 11:59, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hi CMD, I expected the GA process to be delayed, usually it takes weeks before a reviewer is found, but it should be completed by the end of the week. Added an ALT1 based on your suggestion, QPQ is now done as well. Constantine ✍ 15:15, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- Not a problem, just can't approve a DYK while it the article is in such flux. I note some of the errors I mentioned above have already been fixed. Perhaps while editing for GA take another look from the perspective of readers who might be drawn to the article without any background knowledge of the topic through the DYK hook. Phrases like "yet hidden", which is right in the lead, implicitly rely on a lot of background knowledge. Happy to come back to this whenever the article is a bit more stable, feel free to add more ALTs if your editing brings up anything else particularly hooky. CMD (talk) 15:29, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hello CMD, the GA process has been completed. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 08:17, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Not a problem, just can't approve a DYK while it the article is in such flux. I note some of the errors I mentioned above have already been fixed. Perhaps while editing for GA take another look from the perspective of readers who might be drawn to the article without any background knowledge of the topic through the DYK hook. Phrases like "yet hidden", which is right in the lead, implicitly rely on a lot of background knowledge. Happy to come back to this whenever the article is a bit more stable, feel free to add more ALTs if your editing brings up anything else particularly hooky. CMD (talk) 15:29, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
