Template:Did you know nominations/Kidnapping and murder of Moisés Sánchez Cerezo
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 12:44, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
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Kidnapping and murder of Moisés Sánchez Cerezo
[edit]- ... that Moisés Sánchez Cerezo was the first journalist killed in Mexico in 2015?
Created by ComputerJA (talk). Self nominated at 05:27, 6 January 2015 (UTC).
- Comment: He was kidnapped on January 2, but his corpse wasn't found until the 24th. However, sources do say he was killed the same day he was kidnapped. ComputerJA (☎ • ✎) 22:24, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
This article is new enough and long enough. The article seems neutral and I detected no copyright or close paraphrasing issues. However, I don't think this hook will do because the article and source both state he was the first journalist to be kidnapped in 2015 but the date of his death is unclear, and other journalists were murdered in early January. How about:
- ALT1 ... that Mexican journalist Moisés Sánchez Cerezo was abducted from his house on January 2, 2015, and his mutilated body found three weeks later? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:58, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- @Cwmhiraeth: Thank you for your review. Like I mentioned above, the investigation concluded that he was killed the same day he was kidnapped. When that was confirmed, this source backed that up. I don't see a problem with the original hook. He got a lot of press coverage because he was the first journalist kidnapped/killed in 2015. ComputerJA (☎ • ✎) 19:34, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- DYK has been much criticised recently for claiming things are the "first" when they are only believed to be the first. In this instance, your article states that former Televisa reporter Jazmín Martínez Sánchez was killed on January 4th. You can't know for sure which of these deaths occurred first. I cannot approve the hook as it is, but if you want to add a qualifier such as "is believed to be the first", I might. Sorry to be difficult. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:49, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- @Cwmhiraeth: I'm not here to argue whether it's true that he was killed the same day he was kidnapped. That is what the investigation concluded and what reliable sources say. Please read Wikipedia:Verifiability, not truth for more information. ComputerJA (☎ • ✎) 22:09, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- The relevant source states "Rodríguez [a suspect] alleges that the journalist was killed on the day he was abducted" and the headline states "Mexico: 2015’s first murder of journalist highlights need for effective investigations to combat impunity". I will bow out here as I am not happy to approve the hook based on this single source (#32). Someone else may be happy to approve it, or you could choose a different hook. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:17, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Source #84 says that investigators concluded that he was killed the same day he was kidnapped. New review needed. ComputerJA (☎ • ✎) 15:02, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
- The relevant source states "Rodríguez [a suspect] alleges that the journalist was killed on the day he was abducted" and the headline states "Mexico: 2015’s first murder of journalist highlights need for effective investigations to combat impunity". I will bow out here as I am not happy to approve the hook based on this single source (#32). Someone else may be happy to approve it, or you could choose a different hook. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:17, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
- @Cwmhiraeth: I'm not here to argue whether it's true that he was killed the same day he was kidnapped. That is what the investigation concluded and what reliable sources say. Please read Wikipedia:Verifiability, not truth for more information. ComputerJA (☎ • ✎) 22:09, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- DYK has been much criticised recently for claiming things are the "first" when they are only believed to be the first. In this instance, your article states that former Televisa reporter Jazmín Martínez Sánchez was killed on January 4th. You can't know for sure which of these deaths occurred first. I cannot approve the hook as it is, but if you want to add a qualifier such as "is believed to be the first", I might. Sorry to be difficult. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:49, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- :REVIEW COMPLETED - The following review was completed by Esemono
QPQ for Template:Did you know nominations/Gregorio Jiménez de la Cruz- Article created by ComputerJA on January 5, 2015 and has 29808 characters of readable prose
- NPOV
- Hook is interesting, short and sourced with Ref #84, #32
- Every paragraph sourced
- Earwig @ Toolserver Copyvio Detector found no copyvio
GTG -- Esemono (talk) 13:11, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
