Template:Did you know nominations/Lee Winter

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:23, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Lee Winter

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... that as a young adult, lesbian novelist Lee Winter disliked the poor quality of lesbian fiction, preferring autobiographies by lesbian people? Source: "When I was nineteen and bursting out of the closet, [... I spent months reading my haul and was appalled at the shocking quality of lesbian fiction. Two-dimensional characters, plots you could hold up to the light, they were so thin. So I swore off it. I began to only read lesbian autobiographies after that."]
- ALT1: ... that a review for Lee Winter's debut novel, The Red Files, noted inspiration from her journalism career? Source: "Author Lee Winter is a newspaper journalist in Australia, and it shows in her tight plotting, attention to detail, and eye for great lines."
- ALT2: ... that a review for Lee Winter's debut novel noted inspiration from her journalism career? Source: "Author Lee Winter is a newspaper journalist in Australia, and it shows in her tight plotting, attention to detail, and eye for great lines."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ned Rorem
- Comment: Prefer this hook run during Pride Month.

Created by Miraclepine (talk). Self-nominated at 23:18, 8 June 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lee Winter; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing: - ?
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Nice job on this article, and just in time for Pride Month! This nom mostly looks good although there are a couple issues. The sourcing could be tightened up a bit, we probably shouldn't cite the author's website unless absolutely necessary (which I don't think it is). Adding some more secondary sources would also help. I found AfterEllen and Curve but there may be other. The first hook is interesting but the other two are a bit wordy and not very unique. I think you could make them punchier by condensing them and adding a twist. BuySomeApples (talk) 03:34, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

@BuySomeApples: I replaced one of them with independent sourcing, but the author's website refs are fine per WP:ABOUTSELF. I've added the AfterEllen ref but I'm not doing the same for Curve because it is a reprint of the Lesbians on the Loose source. I'll look at the other hooks only if there is an issue with ALT0, which there isn't. I'll be out for a while, but I'll work more on this. ミラP@Miraclepine 22:23, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for working on this @Miraclepine: I struck the ALT hooks since you're OK with ALT0. I appreciate you replacing one of the refs to the author's site. It's definitely OK to reference primary sources a little. I think this nom looks solid enough now though, because the primary sources are only used a handful of times and for non-controversial info. BuySomeApples (talk) 02:42, 12 June 2023 (UTC)