Template:Did you know nominations/Nick Dupree

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:05, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
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Nick Dupree

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... that Nick Dupree (pictured) created the campaign "Nick's Crusade", which resulted in a special program for up to 30 ventilator-dependent Alabamians to continue home care after they turn 21 years old?

Created by Newyorkadam (talk). Self nominated at 22:07, 9 March 2014 (UTC).

Looks good - sufficient length and recent enough. Hook is interesting and cited. We're good. Go Phightins! 02:04, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

What's with citing his Wikipedia user page? For him editing Wikipedia, sure, but what about his disease? Wikipedia is not a reliable source for that. Nowhere close. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:19, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Pinging Wizardman and Secret to weigh in on the matter. We discussed this; I cannot remember, however, whether we agreed that it should only be for the fact that the edits, or for other items. Personally, I have no problem with it being used for everything, except for perhaps this: Dupree has an unknown muscular disorder believed to be related to the metabolic cycle and Carnitine.[9]. Go Phightins! 00:34, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Considering this is related to medical diagnosis, and central to the reason for his activism (and thus notability) something more solid is needed. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:00, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Here's a different source regarding his medical diagnosis: http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-10-31/invalid-new-yorker-s-pals-keep-life-saving-gear-running --Orlady (talk) 03:13, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

He himself wrote the content on his userpage, and evidence from other sources proves that he wrote the userpage. I believe WP:IAR applies. -Newyorkadam (talk) 02:28, 16 March 2014 (UTC)Newyorkadam

Orlady's source is much more reliable. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:38, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

The article is weak; it only minimally qualifies for DYK. There's more content out there that can be used to craft a better article. Moreover, sources like this one lead me to think that he did not campaign for a special program for up to a certain limited number of people, as the article and hook currently imply. Rather, the combination of his advocacy and a lawsuit he filed led to a change in the state's rules that was expect to result in benefits for about 25 to 30 people. --Orlady (talk) 03:06, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

@Orlady: The hook does not imply that he campaigned for a limited number of people, it says that it resulted in it for a limited number of people. And I'll work on adding moar content. -Newyorkadam (talk) 03:39, 16 March 2014 (UTC)Newyorkadam

Newyorkadam: The hook says that his actions led to a "special program" for "up to 30 people". That wording implies that enrollment in the "program" was capped. You may not have intended the words to be read that way, but that's what they imply. In fact, it appears that about 25 to 30 people were estimated to be eligible for the program, and the number was not capped. --Orlady (talk) 04:51, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Hadn't looked at it that way, but you're not wrong. How about "... for around 30 people ..." or "... for about 30 people (at the time) ... ". Go Phightins! 12:30, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

What about "approximately"? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:01, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Referencing of the disease is still subpar. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:03, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
Referencing still not addressed. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:52, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
- Nominator appears to have lost interest. Can we close this as unsuccessful? Go Phightins! 01:01, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

@Go Phightins!: @Crisco 1492: Haven't lost interest, just didn't see this. I'll try to finish this tonight or tomorrow at the latest. -Newyorkadam (talk) 11:22, 15 May 2014 (UTC)Newyorkadam