Template:Did you know nominations/Obed Dickinson
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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:47, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
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Obed Dickinson
Obed Dickinson with his wife and children.
- ... that American abolitionists didn't necessarily believe in racial equality – Obed Dickinson (pictured), an abolitionist pastor in Oregon in the mid-1800s, advocated for racial equality and ultimately lost his job for it? Source: "The information about abolitionists and equality is found in the first paragraph in the Abolitionist section. Information about Obed Dickinson resigning from his job is found in the last paragraph in the Abolitionist section"
- ALT1:... that Obed Dickinson (pictured), was pressured into resigning for advocating for racial equality?
- Reviewed: This is Bridges2Information's first nomination.
Moved to mainspace by Bridges2Information (talk). Nominated by Bridges2Information (talk) at 18:18, 26 May 2021 (UTC).
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- The quote at the end of the third paragraph of the "Abolition" section is not cited. - Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited: - "Supported in the article" isn't quite enough here. Please cite specific sources that are used in the article and explicitly support the hook.
- Interesting:
- Other problems: - The hook is over 200 characters. It also seems to generalize ("American abolitionists didn't necessarily believe in racial equality") from the actual fact (Obed Dickinson was fired), and although I didn't read all the sources, it doesn't seem completely clear from the article that he was fired because other abolitionists disagreed with him.
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Overall: 
This could run, but it needs some work first. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 04:49, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- Perhaps ALT1 ... that Obed Dickinson (pictured), an abolitionist pastor in Oregon in the mid-1800s, was pressured into resigning for advocating for racial equality? The article mentions he resigned rather than being fired, so this is closer to the article wording. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:19, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- I talked to Bridges2Information, who mentioned being quite busy. I did see the source was added to the paragraph that ezlev mentioned. I like ALT1; thanks, Narutolovehinata5. = paul2520 💬 22:53, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. @Ezlev: Can you please give this a second look? Narutolovehinata5 (talk ·
- Thank you Narutolovehinata5 and Paul2520, I'm back! Sorry, I've been busy and also tweaking a Good Article Nomination. About Obed, he was not fired, he "resigned". According to his descendants he left because he disagreed with his church members about abolition and equality. As was written in two journal articles that I read, because of his outspoken stance his church in Salem received a lot of negative press attention and so his church members did not reappoint him as minister in March of 63. Because he wasn't the minister anymore, the church was able to raise the money they needed to build the church. Then they called him back in September to be the minister. However, the articles noted that his members really wanted him to be quiet about his opinions, but he refused to be quiet. So, in the end he resigned. I think "pressured to resign" is a good way to put it. The minister that replaced him was more moderate and the members liked this better. Bridges2Information (talk) 03:26, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- This article that is available to all (with citations) also says that he stepped down because he was tired of fighting with his congregation. Article. Bridges2Information (talk) 03:33, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- I talked to Bridges2Information, who mentioned being quite busy. I did see the source was added to the paragraph that ezlev mentioned. I like ALT1; thanks, Narutolovehinata5. = paul2520 💬 22:53, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- Perhaps ALT1 ... that Obed Dickinson (pictured), an abolitionist pastor in Oregon in the mid-1800s, was pressured into resigning for advocating for racial equality? The article mentions he resigned rather than being fired, so this is closer to the article wording. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:19, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
contributions) 03:07, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
Ezlev hasn't edited in over a week, so we may need a new reviewer. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:04, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Reviewing Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:03, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
So thanks for providing the article - seems to cover the hook well enough - I would say we could probably make it a bit cleaner "... that Obed Dickinson (pictured), was pressured into resigning for advocating for racial equality?" Would cover the facts and be much shorter. The article is referenced well, no copyvio found. Only suggestion from a quick scan is that it should be Obel Jr and not Obel (Jr). Happy to let this go, with hook set creator to check and copyedit the hook. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:10, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- I have edited the hook. Thank you. Bridges2Information (talk) 20:05, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
