Template:Did you know nominations/Rock relief
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The result was: promoted by Jolly Ω Janner 06:43, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
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Rock relief
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A rock relief at Taq Bostan
- ... that rock reliefs (example pictured) have been made in many cultures, and were especially important in the art of the Ancient Near East?
Created by Johnbod (talk). Self-nominated at 20:57, 26 November 2015 (UTC).
New enough (this is sort of debatable because while there's been continual development, no work was done between the 13th and the 25th, and the article was in a nominatable state on the 13th), long enough (the lead alone is over 1500), neutral, cites sources, and clean according to the Earwig tool ([1]). Hook is short enough and is directly cited (to an offline source). QPQ present. Please select a different image though. Freedom of panorama in Romania is murky, and I don't feel 100% comfortable that this is a freely licensed image. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 00:38, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review. The article was moved from my user space the day it was nominated (26 November), which I should have mentioned perhaps, and the image is on Commons so should not be a problem. Johnbod (talk) 03:06, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Johnbod, please pick another image that's not from Romania. Just because it's hosted on Commons does not mean that it should be hosted on Commons, and I'm not going to promote an image to the main page if there's a concern that it might be taken down for copyright reasons. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 00:45, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Johnbod and The Squirrel Conspiracy: I think there is an argument to be made that the entire Commons category of Decebalus rock sculpture should be reviewed by the Commons copyvio people. The images are incredible, but they were a commissioned work that was begun in 1994 and completed in 2004. The person who commissioned it also purchased the rock upon which the art was carved, but has since died. I couldn't find anything about the sculptor Mario Galeotti. Who owns the actual rock and who owns copyright to those works is a good question. Romania's FoP says
NotOK for commercial: Per the Romanian copyright law of 1996, images of architectural works, of three-dimensional works of art, of photographic works or of works of applied art permanently located in public places may be published only for non-commercial uses or if the work is not the main subject of the image.
Is Wikipedia a commercial venture? And the sculpture seems to be the main subject in the Commons images. The image you wish to use was apparently a Flickr download, but the link provided on Commons says the person who uploaded it there is no longer active. — Maile (talk) 14:24, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Johnbod and The Squirrel Conspiracy: I think there is an argument to be made that the entire Commons category of Decebalus rock sculpture should be reviewed by the Commons copyvio people. The images are incredible, but they were a commissioned work that was begun in 1994 and completed in 2004. The person who commissioned it also purchased the rock upon which the art was carved, but has since died. I couldn't find anything about the sculptor Mario Galeotti. Who owns the actual rock and who owns copyright to those works is a good question. Romania's FoP says
- Johnbod, please pick another image that's not from Romania. Just because it's hosted on Commons does not mean that it should be hosted on Commons, and I'm not going to promote an image to the main page if there's a concern that it might be taken down for copyright reasons. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 00:45, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
- New image added. Johnbod (talk) 11:31, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review. The article was moved from my user space the day it was nominated (26 November), which I should have mentioned perhaps, and the image is on Commons so should not be a problem. Johnbod (talk) 03:06, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
I have commented out the original image, and replaced it with Johnbod's new image and a caption of my own devising. The Squirrel Conspiracy, is this image more suitable, and if so, can you please continue/complete the review? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:47, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
The only issue from the initial review was the image. While there's no freedom of panorama in Iran, the relief itself is very clearly too old to be protected by copyright, so this is now good to go. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 21:59, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
