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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:08, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

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Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight

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  • Reviewed: Ferrari 330 TRI/LM
  • Comment: I realise things like this can make Wikipedians uncomfortable, but my intent here is simply to give us a bit of positive self-referential trumpet blowing on the main page, nothing more.

Created by Seanplusplus (talk), Everymorning (talk), Another Believer (talk), Ipigott (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk) and Ritchie333 (talk). Nominated by Ritchie333 (talk) at 16:25, 30 June 2016 (UTC).

  • Thank you everyone - always great to see so many people involved in a nom. New enough. Long enough. QPQ done. Earwig and spot checking found no issues with close paraphrasing issues, copyright violations or plagiarism. The hook fact is accurate, although it needs a cite at the end of the sentence, not just later in the para. All paras cited. Hook is interesting. NPOV, except for "celebrated" which is in the hook, but not the article, and is rather a weasel word - I have added an ALT1 without it. If we have a bio on someone it is because they are notable/celebrated/famous. One thought, "award-winning" might be okay, as we have an article for the award which she has won. Edwardx (talk) 23:21, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
  • @Edwardx: I think the idea behind the hook is that "the wikipedia editor" doesn't really mean anything, and "celebrated" reflects the sources all saying she has done good work for Wikipedia. However, looking at them again, there's an equal mix containing her criticism of the gender gap and systemic bias, so I think we do need a rethink. So I'm going to suggest:
  • ALT2 : that the award-winning Wikipedia editor Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight has cited cultural anthropologist Margaret Mead as an influence on her writing? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:56, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Re-review required now ALTs have been suggested. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:56, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

  • I personally find the hook rather dull. Also, the image in the article is freely licensed; I think readers will be interested in seeing a face behind the encyclopedia. Here are some other suggestions:
Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
Well personally I think name-dropping Margaret Mead would be interesting for people who've only heard the big fanfares at Wikimania and want to know what motivates this editor to create content for free, and in the past (eg: here), self-referential hooks have been frowned upon and pulled. Also, while the picture is free, I thought it would nice to ask Rosie if she wanted her mugshot on the main page first! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:47, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
I understand. I can just see someone at WP:ERRORS pulling this pronto. I'm fine with ALT2. Yoninah (talk) 14:49, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
Yes, I can believe that. Perhaps we should announce this at WT:DYK before anyone goes to prep? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:16, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
Good idea. Yoninah (talk) 18:32, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
What do you think of saying precisely Wikipedian of the Year instead of a vague "celebrated", - or a pipe link? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:42, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: look at ALT2. However, I wouldn't mind:
ALT2a : ... that Wikipedian of the Year Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight has cited cultural anthropologist Margaret Mead as an influence on her writing? Yoninah (talk) 22:15, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
Agreed with ALT2a. Date and length fine. Not sure if we should be using a Wikimedia blog as a source given that could be seen as self-referencing but thankfully the Huff Post source covers it. Also with the precedence of ETW appearing on DYK, there is no problem for one of us being on here. QPQ done. No close para. Picture licence fine. Good to go. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 05:59, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
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