Template:Did you know nominations/S.T.H.

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 09:12, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

S.T.H.

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• ... that the founder of the pornography zine S.T.H. once joked that it "was the only gay-sex magazine funded by the U.S. government"? Source: n+1
  • ALT1:... that the gay pornography zine S.T.H. counted William S. Burroughs, Allen Ginsberg, Tennessee Williams, and Gore Vidal among its readership? Source: inline in article
  • ALT2:... that Gore Vidal once described the gay pornography zine S.T.H. as "one of the best radical papers in the country"? Source: Daily Xtra

• Reviewed: Rockaway Beach and Boardwalk

Created by Morgan695 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:03, 1 September 2020 (UTC).

all looks good here - the article is new enough, long enough, no obivous copvios and adequately referenced. I prefer the first hook, ALT0, myself so signing that one off here. And have checked it in the source. Only query there is whether the quotes are really necessary - the source did not put it in quotes, and arguably it's their words rather than his. Not a massive deal though probably. Cheers, and thanks for the good work.  — Amakuru (talk) 21:39, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the review. It's a direct quote from the article that is attributed to McDonald, so I believe the way it's formatted is accurate, even if it's not necessarily a directly attributable quote to McDonald. Morgan695 (talk) 22:49, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

OK, that sounds fine then. Thanks for the reply.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:59, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

• @Amakuru: the nominator has stated at WT:DYK that material has been spun off from Boyd McDonald (pornographer). If the material was rewritten, fine, but if it was copied then this new article has to be 5x longer than the copied material per Rule A5. Yoninah (talk) 23:33, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

• The article is a combination of new content, spun-off content, and spun-off content that was rewritten because of copyvio issues. Whether it was a 5x expansion I can't say; is there a script or something to measure? Morgan695 (talk) 01:07, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

• @Morgan695: you just have to find the copied text and multiply it by 5. If the new article is at least that long, all is well. If you reworded the copied text, all is good too. Yoninah (talk) 21:03, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

• @Yoninah: OK, it seems that the article contains 484B of readable prose that was directly copied from Boyd McDonald (pornographer). S.T.H. contains a total of 4955B of readable prose, so I believe it qualifies as a 5x expansion. Morgan695 (talk) 21:16, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

• Great, thanks. Restoring tick per Amakuru's review. Yoninah (talk) 21:18, 6 September 2020 (UTC)