Template:Did you know nominations/Tomislav Smoljanović
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The result was: promoted by Montanabw(talk) 04:43, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
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Tomislav Smoljanović
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that Tomislav Smoljanović's "guerrilla science approach" uncovered financial ties between medical researchers and pharmaceutical companies in the United States?
5x expanded by GregorB (talk). Self nominated at 21:35, 16 January 2015 (UTC).
, really interesting, well written, neutral, new article. I suggest that the hook should be slightly rewritten. The hook states that his "guerrilla science approach" uncovered financial ties between researchers and a company, but his "guerrilla science approach" only followed the discovery of those financial ties, according to my reading of the article. The hook refers to "pharmaceutical companies", but only one company is mentioned in the article. Furthermore, Smoljanović's biography is primarily based on sources written in Croatian so I cannot cheque its accuracy; I would really appreciate if an English source were added. Borsoka (talk) 05:39, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
- Well, it's "uncovered" not in the sense of "discovered", but "made widely known": he became aware of these ties before the bulk of his letter-writing campaign, but it helped in making them public knowledge. "Pharmaceutical companies" is meant in a generic sense - while the company in question is named in the article, for understandable reasons I wanted to avoid naming it in the hook. These are both quite valid remarks though, and I'd certainly appreciate ALT suggestions if you feel these are necessary. Here's one that hopefully takes care of your second remark:
- ALT1 ... that Tomislav Smoljanović's "guerrilla science approach" uncovered financial ties between medical researchers and an American pharmaceutical company?
- There are actually four English sources about the medical affair (NYT, Medpagetoday, Stanford and Reuters) in the article, two of which mention Smoljanović (plus several more English sources on peripheral stuff). I believe all statements in the article that could be supported by provided English-language sources actually are. I'm not aware of any English-language sources that would significantly expand upon those already present, but I will definitely double-check and add them if they exist. (Also, do you have particular statements in mind?) Of course, one can only go so far, and WP:NONENG applies. GregorB (talk) 12:43, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, I must have wrongly expressed myself: yes, the presentation of the medical affair is based on English sources, but, his biography (the description of his sport career and his studies before the medical affair) is almost solely based on Croatian sources. Of course, it can be accepted AGF. What about ending the hook with "... and a pharmaceutical company in the United States" or with "... and a major producer of medicins"?
- No problem - his sports career actually has English sources only for the most prominent facts (2 medals), I'll try and see if this could be improved upon. I'll try to supply additional ALTs too. GregorB (talk) 16:11, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay, I got sidetracked as RL interfered a bit... So: can't find any meaningful additional sources for his sports career. I've crossed out the original hook, but do you find the ALT1 hook acceptable? Hopefully I'll be able provide more hooks, if necessary, within a day or two. GregorB (talk) 09:08, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
