Template:Did you know nominations/Treak Cliff Cavern
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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 21:07, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
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Treak Cliff Cavern
[edit]- ... that Treak Cliff Cavern (pictured) is one of only two sites where the ornamental mineral Blue John is excavated?
ALT1:... that Treak Cliff Cavern (pictured) features a stork and a ram's head?
5x expanded by Dave.Dunford (talk). Nominated by Pigsonthewing (talk) at 21:07, 9 May 2014 (UTC).
- Good work! The article was formerly marked as a stub, and the readable prose has been expanded well over five times in length. It is written in a neutral manner, and the online sources support the relevant material, which is not plagiarised or closely paraphrased. However, much of the introduction is not sourced there, nor covered later in the article. The unsourced facts should either be repeated (and potentially expanded) in the body of the article, followed by inline sources, or otherwise removed. There should also be sources for the last sentences in the "Blue John" and "History" sections. Of the two hooks, the first is mentioned in the introduction and is broadly supported by the article, but is not specifically stated with a following source. The second is only mentioned in the infobox; this would also be good to restate in the article, with a reference. The image meets requirements and would be a good accompaniment to the hook. Warofdreams talk 19:51, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
- I've done my best to reference and expand the article as requested. The Stork formation is mentioned in the cave guidebook, but the Ram's Head – although highlighted by the guides during tours round the cave – is not mentioned by name in the book, and I've been unable to find a reliable reference to it in other references or online. Dave.Dunford (talk) 17:45, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- The article has been edited since the above review, and the reviewer has not come back yet, so I'm reviewing again. Note: I have struck ALT1 because it refers to spurious and arbitrary naming by tour guides of geological formations which may look vaguely like animals, for the frivolous entertainment of tourists. Although the sentence about the naming is true (I have visited the cave several times - but that is "own research"), it is still uncited.--Storye book (talk) 17:58, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
- Expansion is new enough (for 9 May) and long enough. Original hook supported by offline citation #5, taken AGF. No QPQ required because it's not self-nom. No problems with disambig links or with external links. Hook image and images in article are free. Issue: There is material copied from citation #6 which is not in quotation marks - enough to count as copyvio. Please re-write it in your own words or show it as a quotation (from "By agreement" to "decorative items" in the header).--Storye book (talk) 17:58, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
- Time to re-review, please? Victuallers has made some changes. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 10:38, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for the update, PFHLai. All issues resolved. Good to go with original hook and image. --Storye book (talk) 12:57, 18 June 2014 (UTC)