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Edit request

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Per a discussion on the talk page for List of best-selling music artists, is it possible to have the above edit notice implemented for List of best-selling music artists, thank you. Mattg82 (talk) 03:09, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Two comments:

This seems excessively long for an edit notice. You might want to consider shortening it somewhat.
You should use the {{editnotice}} template to generate the correct format.

— Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:43, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have now made it shorter and used the {{editnotice}} template. Mattg82 (talk) 14:00, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Added. I've set an expiry date a year from now but it can be renewed if necessary. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:56, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible to set a new expiration date? It helps to prevent some of disruption the list constantly experiences.--Harout72 (talk) 19:47, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Please renew the time limit for the template as it has now expired. It is a list that attracts a lot of attention, we need this visible message to warn or remind editors of the inclusion criteria. Mattg82 (talk) 02:31, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done I see no need for an expiry Ronhjones ^(Talk) 00:40, 18 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 23 April 2014

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Please get rid of the quaint language ("whilst") and fix the typo. It should read "While we encourage editors to be bold, it is highly recommended to discuss changes on the talk page" (this >> the). Huw Powell (talk) 06:44, 23 April 2014 (UTC) Huw Powell (talk) 06:44, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done -- John of Reading (talk) 06:53, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 11 November 2016

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Per this recent discussion, this moves the before-you-edit-this FAQ out of the article lede and into the edit notice. Please replace the current edit notice with the following {{editnotice}} template:

IMPORTANT: Please read before adding any artists or editing any figures

What is required to be on this list?

All artists included on this list, which have begun charting on official albums/singles charts have their available claimed figure(s) supported by at least 20% in certified units. That is why Cliff Richard, Diana Ross, Scorpions, Charles Aznavour, Bing Crosby, Gloria Estefan, Deep Purple, Iron Maiden, Tom Jones, The Jackson 5, Dionne Warwick, the Spice Girls, Luciano Pavarotti, Dolly Parton, Ozzy Osbourne, Andrea Bocelli and others have not been included on this list. The more recent the artist, the higher the required percentage of certified units, so artists such as Rihanna, Taylor Swift, Flo Rida, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Adele, Justin Bieber and Bruno Mars are expected to have their claimed figures supported by over 75% in certified units. The certified units are sourced from available online databases of local music industry associations. Note that all certified units are converted from Gold/Platinum/Diamond certification awards based on criteria provided by certifying bodies. The details of how much certified sales each artist should have based on the first year they appear on charts, can be found in the second box from the top on article's talk page.

What is the purpose of having certified sales?

The requirements of certified sales are designed to avoid inflated sales figures, which are frequently practiced by record companies for promotional purposes.

Claimed figures

The claimed figures are referenced from online articles created by highly reliable sources. For clarity, the sources used, say the term "records" (singles, albums, videos) and not "albums". However, if all available sources for an artist/band say "albums", such sources are only used if the certified album units of the said artist meet the required percentage amount.

Why are higher claims for figures often avoided?

Note that this list uses claimed figures that are closest to artists' available certified units. Inflated claimed figures that meet the required certified units amount but are unrealistically high, are not used.

When are the claimed figures upgraded?

The claimed figures are upgraded only when there is a significant progress in artists' certified sales. In other words, the available certified sales for each artist should get relatively closer to already listed claimed figure in order for higher figures to replace the listed ones. It is highly recommended that editors discuss sales figures on the talk page before making any changes.

How streaming may affect the certified sales

Note that the certified sales of the newer artists may sometimes be higher than their listed claimed figures. That is because Recording Industry Association of America and almost all other certifying bodies count streaming towards Gold and Platinum thresholds required for Digital Single Award certification. For this reason, some singles and even albums get over certified by hundreds of thousands of units. The over certified figures, however, often times are in millions of units for RIAA certifications.</nowiki>

Thanks. --McGeddon (talk) 09:16, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done - despite it being the 10th ;-) removed erratic nowiki from the end of the text. Cabayi (talk) 10:29, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 6 July 2017

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I would like to request that Big Bang be added to the admittedly already long list of artists that have not been added to the list. The band have sold over 100 million downloads in South Korea, which to my knowledge does not award any certifications.

I do not know what requirements need to be met to add an artist to that list, but I submit that Big Bang are (at least currently) more well-known across the world and especially in Southeast Asia and in the Americas, where I doubt older singers such as Charles Aznavour and Tom Jones are more well-known. Mαuri^’96 “everything and nothing always haunts me…” 01:19, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}} template. Consider inviting users from Talk:List of best-selling music artists and WT:MUSIC to this page to discuss this addition. Izno (talk) 15:23, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 26 August 2021

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The required percentage for certified sales has been raised from 20% to 30%. Could an administrator please make the change so we can have the same reflecting on the page notice when the Edit button is clicked on the main page. Thanks.--Harout72 (talk) 20:52, 26 August 2021 (UTC) Harout72 (talk) 20:52, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}} template. firefly ( t · c ) 07:42, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The change I'm requesting has already been made at the List of best-selling music artists, the Page notice, however, still says 20%. It also needs to be changed to 30%. The change I'm referring to is within the first paragraph of the Page notice where it says All artists included on this list, which have begun charting on official albums/singles charts have their available claimed figure(s) supported by at least 20% in certified units. The 20% simply needs to be changed to 30% as it already says on the main page of the list.--Harout72 (talk) 08:42, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done--John Cline (talk) 19:55, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 19 September 2022

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The methodology used in the List of best-selling music artists has been changed, removing the requirements based on percentages. For that reason, it is now necessary to change the content of this template. The rest of the texts of the list have already been adapted to the new methodology.

In order to state the change request in a "change X to Y" format, what should be replaced is the current content of the template with the following wikicode:

IMPORTANT: Please read before adding any artists or editing any figures

What is required to be on this list?

All artists included in this list are required to have claimed sales figures of at least 75 million records. Such figures should be supported by highly reliable sources, preferably from news organizations. The sources generally use the term "records", which includes singles, albums and videos.

What is the purpose of having certified sales?

Certified sales are total independently certified figures that provide objective data to the list. However, it should be taken into account that certification systems do not exist in all markets. Additionally, the dates of establishment of the existing certification systems are different, differing up to several decades between them.

How streaming may affect the certified sales

Note that the certified sales of the newer artists may sometimes be higher than their listed claimed figures. That is because Recording Industry Association of America and almost all other certifying bodies count streaming towards Gold and Platinum thresholds required for Digital Single Award certification. For this reason, some singles and even albums get over certified by hundreds of thousands of units. The over certified figures, however, often times are in millions of units for RIAA certifications.

Salvabl (talk) 18:21, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 00:01, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]