User:Nfutvol/Tim Zukas RFC Draft

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Statement of the dispute

User Tim Zukas has made dozens of edits based on information from various airline guides, timetables and maps to airport, rail station and rail line pages. However, he has continually refused properly to cite these edits utilizing available templates, or, in many cases, to include citations at all. This has continued on pages that have obtained Good Article status, and articles that are seeking Good Article status, which puts these statuses at risk. These are generally good-faith edits, and if he were to cite his work properly and work with other editors, he would have the potential to become a very helpful and productive editor.

A full log of this activity and the efforts to inform him of the proper methods may be found on his talk page dating from 2012-08-03 18:14 EDT. Further discussion may be found at the talk page for Nashville International Airport.

Desired outcome

• That the user follow established guidelines for providing useful and unambiguous citations.
• That the user follow the prevailing style of the articles being edited when entering citations, especially articles that are of GA or Featured Article/List status, or articles that are seeking such status.
• That the user continue to provide useful edits and engage the community when questions or suggestions are raised.

Description

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Evidence of disputed behavior

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Palm Beach International Airport

Tuscon International Airport

Piedmont Triad International Airport

San Francisco International Airport

Coleman A. Young International Airport

Smith Reynolds Airport

Richmond International Airport

Hoboken Terminal

Miami International Airport

Port Columbus International Airport

Port Columbus International Airport

Chicago Midway Article

Applicable policies and guidelines

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WikiProject Aviation Sourcing Guide

WikiProject Aviation General Style Guide

Verifiability Guide

Reliable Sources Guide

Edit warring (to a lesser extent)

Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute

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Attempts by certifier nf utvol

Attempt 1

Attempt 2

Attempt 3

Attempt 4

Attempts by certifier Nyttend

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Users certifying the basis for this dispute

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nf utvol (talk) 23:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Nyttend (talk) 03:23, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

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Outside view by Centpacrr

I was asked to comment in here but I'm not really sure what useful addition I can make. I have had very little interaction with this user except in a couple of western US railroad articles some time ago and the EWR article recently in which all I did was restored some relevant material he had added that had been removed by another editor because it had not been properly cited. I restored the information (which I had found to be useful), inserted proper referencing, and posted a note in the user's talk page to that effect with the note to him that if he did not use that sourcing format his future contributions were likely to continue to be deleted by other editors despite the information itself being relevant. I also noted that while his actions could possibly be considered to be disruptive to some extent, they certainly did not seem to constitute "vandalism" as defined by WP policy. As I have not watched any of the other pages to which he has been contributing since then I was not aware that the reference formatting issue had persisted. I know that the user has been advised of the proper procedure at least by me as noted above but I am not sure if there is anything else I can do to help resolve the issue. Centpacrr (talk) 22:46, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

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