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[edit]{WPMILHIST Academy} On the main page, below today's featured article, is a section devoted to oddball facts from Wikipedia's article base. The section, named "Did You Know?" aims to highlight the strange, bizarre, funny, amusing, interesting, fascinating, or otherwise noteworthy facts from our newest articles or from those articles on site that have been expanded five-fold.
DYK is one of the ways in which our contributors can have their hard work recognized on the mainpage. This method allows for an article to appear on the main page in the DYK column, and since DYK articles are expected to be new or nearly new they are not required to be featured article to have an appearance. DYK articles are also less likely to be vandalized because vandals are more apt to target the featured article of the day since the TFA receives the lions share of traffic from the main page.
Getting an article to the DYK page requires that you have a "hook" - an interesting fact of some sort - that is sighted to a reliable source. Once you have that you may nominate the article for an appearance on the DYK page, and if the hook you have is deemed noteworthy it can be selected to appear in the DYK section out on the main page.
Eligibility
[edit]For an article to be eligible for a DYK nomination it needs to meet three criteria.
First, the article in question needs to be new or expanded five fold. If an article is not new, or if it has not been expanded by at least 500% (five fold) then it will be suspended until such time as it is expanded a full five fold. If the article can not be expanded a full five fold, then it will be disqualified from a DYK appearance.
Second, for both new articles and those expanded five fold, the time limit for a DYK nomination is five days. In other words, you have a five day window from the time you either created the new article from which you are seeking the DYK hook or expanded an article to make it eligible for a DYK nomination. If you do not file for a DYK nomination within five days then you lose your chance to have the newly created or expanded article appear with the DYK hook.
Lastly, for purposes of the DYK process, the "hook" - the interesting fact from the article you wish to have featured - must be precisely cited either immediately after the information in question or at the end of the sentence in question. This differs from the standard practice of the military history project, which is to cite information on a rounding basis.[1]
Adding your nom
[edit]When your reasonably sure that your nomination is ready then head for the DYK nomination page, located at Template talk:Did you know.
South Dakota class battleship
[edit]- http://www.steelnavy.com/IHPSouthDakota.htm
- http://bulk.resource.org/gpo.gov/record/2002/2002_S02187.pdf
- http://digital.library.unt.edu/govdocs/crs//data/2008/upl-meta-crs-10679/RS22478_2008Oct30.ocr
- http://www.elslaw.com/nyshipbuildingcorp.htm
- http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA436462&Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf - RS confirmation needed
- http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/weapons/RS22478.pdf
- http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/L?c106:./list/c106hr.lst:101
- http://www.angelfire.com/ar2/jule5/Admirals.html
Armor
[edit]armor info and other matters of interst concerning the battleships
Albion (Gundam)
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Name | Albion |
Ordered | 13 October UC 0083 |
Status | Unknown, believed decommissioned |
Notes | Final Peagus class carrier built |
General characteristics | |
Class and type | Pegasus-class |
Displacement | 48,900 tons (Fully Loaded) |
Length | 305 meters |
Beam | 210 meters |
Draft | 82 meters |
Propulsion | Minovsky Fusion Reactor |
Range | Essentially unlimited |
Capacity | 6 mobile suits |
Complement | 211 officers and men[2] |
Sensors and processing systems | Ground and Air Search Radar |
Electronic warfare & decoys | Minovsky particle system |
Armament | list error: <br /> list (help) Mega Particle Gun x2 2-Barrel Main Gun Turret x2 2-Barrel Secondary Gun Turret x2 Anti-Ground 2-Barrel Laser Gun Turret x4 Anti-Aircraft 2-Barrel Laser Gun Turret x14 Large Missile Launcher x4 |
Aircraft carried | list error: <br /> list (help) RX-78GP01A Gundam Zephyranthes RX-78GP01Fb Gundam Zephyranthes Full Vernian RX-78GP02A Gundam Physalis (stolen at Torrington) RX-78GP03 Gundam Dendrobium (acquired at La Vie en Rose) RGM-79N GM Custom x3 RGC-83 GM Cannon II x2 |
--> Albion (MSC-07) is the seventh Pegasus-class assault carrier, and the first of the Albion subclass in the Universal Century Gundam ark. Albion’s debut came in the 1991—1992 OVA Mobile Suit Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory and in the 1992 movie follow-up Last Blitz of Zeon. The Assault Carrier was also included in the 2003 PlayStation 2 game Mobile Suit Gundam: Encounters in Space and was later featured as the mothership in the 2006 PlayStation 2 Another Century's Episode 2.
The carrier was initially designed by Shoji Kawamori, who created the mecha for the 2005 anime series Eureka Seven, and was eventually refined by Mika Akitaka, who worked on other Gundam series such as Gundam ZZ. (need to say more here).
Albion is functionally equivalent to the modern day aircraft carrier. Within the ship is a large hanger bay, which is used by the crew to rearm, repair, and store up to six mobile suits of various designs and purposes. Albion also retains the capability to service and rearm mobile armors, and can also launch and recover core fighters - jet aircraft that can operate terrestrially or extra-terrestrially.
Design and Construction
[edit]During the One Year War, technology advanced quickly, and ships ordered during the war quickly became obsolete as developments in mobile suit technology rapidly outpaced ship weaponry. Albion was not actually commissioned until three years after the war ended, in UC 0083, though the carrier was commissioned in time to respond to and adequately deal with the final Principality of Zeon offensive, Operation Stardust.
Albion looks very different from her earlier sisters, such as Gray Phantom and White Base. Through the introduction of an advanced command and control system Albion can employ her primary and secondary gun batteries from stations within the carrier, reducing the danger posed to the crew of the carrier during combat operations. In addition, through the use of variable geometry the ship can employ a specially designed reflector shield that can capture laser bursts from Federation facilities on the moon, enabling Albion to escape lunar orbit with greater ease and reduced fuel consumption. In addition, four retractable fins allow for greater stability while cruising on earth or in space.
Albion was a departure from the original Pegasus-class ships in several ways. Through extensive use of computers and automation, most of her weaponry could be controlled from inside the ship's hull, reducing the risk placed on crew members responsible for defending the ship. Albion’s standard Minovsky propulsion system was augmented by an experimental Laser Propulsion System that used mirrored receptors to catch laser bursts from the moon, which allowed Albion to escape from the moon's gravitational hold more easily. But the most drastic change was in Albion’s mobile suit launch procedure: rather than exposing the hangar deck to flight operations and combat conditions, Albion had a lift system that moved mobile suits topside to the external launch catapult, thereby protecting the MS hangers and field personnel inside. The lift system became an instant hit with the Earth Federal Space Force, and became standard equipment on refitted Salamis Kai class ships.
Ship history
[edit]Albion launched from the lunar city Von Braun on 7 October UC 0083, Captain Eiphar Synapse commanding. Albion received both the RX-78GP01 Gundam Zephyranthes (Unit 1) and the RX-78GP02A Gundam Physalis (Unit 2), and orders instructing Synapse to take his ship to Jabrouw in South America. From here, Synapse was instructed to take his ship Torrington base in Australia, where the new suits could be field tested under Earth's gravity. Captain Synapse arrived on 13 October as scheduled, and presented Brigadier General Monteray (Torrington’s base commander) with paperwork instructing him to load both suites with live ammunition. Additionally, Synapse presented the paperwork instructing Torrington's base commander to load Unit 2 with an MK-82 tactical nuclear warhead.
Shortly after sunset, the Delaz Fleet commenced Operation Stardust, beginning with Anavel Gato’s hijack of Gundam Unit 2. Once the terrestrial Zeon remnants confirmed Gato had secured the Gundam, MS-09F/trop Dom Tropens and one YMS-16M Xamel launched a raid against Torrington to help divert the Federation's search parties. Although Gato was pursued by Kou Uraki, who commandeered Gundam Unit 1, he managed to escape from Torrington through the aid of a friendly Zeon submarine. Albion was heavily damaged in the raid, thanks in part to powerful multi-missiles fired from the same Zeon submarine. While undergoing repairs at Torrington, Captain Synapse received a change in orders: Ascertain the location of the stolen Gundam, and if necessary, destroy it. Along with those orders came a full complement of Mobile Suits and pilots: Chuck Keith and Kou Uraki, originally stationed at Torrington, were reassigned to Albion, along with Bernard Monsha, Alpha A. Bate, and Chap Adel. Commanding the newly formed Albion MS contingent was Lt. South Burning.
Following the last known course of the Zeon submarine, Albion departed from Torrington on 14 October and arrived in Africa on 16 October. One week later Albion succeeded in locating the stolen Gundam, but failed to secure it. Zeon's Kiberlite Base MS unit, composed of about six Zaku II F2's and four Doms Tropens, engaged Albion’s MS units, buying enough time for Anavel Gato to escape into space aboard a Heavy Lift Vehicle (HLV). Once in space, Gato and the stolen Gundam Unit 2 rendezvoused with a pair of Musai’s, which included Gato's flagship, the Peer Gynt. Using the position of this battle as a starting point Albion proceeded into space and requested additional help with the task of locating the stolen mobile suite. General Kowen granted the request, assigning two Salamis class cruisers to assist; both were destroyed and the Gundam heavily damaged by Cima Garahau and her men.
Albion proceeded to Von Braun, where the ship was docked for resupply. During this port call Anaheim Electronics took custody of the damaged Unit 1, upgrading it into the RX-78GP01Fb Gundam Zephyranthes Full Vernian — a version refitted for space combat. Departing Von Braun on 4 November, Albion proceeded to the Sea of Solomon to resume its search for the missing Gundam Unit 2. Between 4 November and 6 November Albion supported Gundam Unit 1 as it conducted weapons tests with an experimental beam rifle.
On 8 November Admiral Green Wyatt, the supreme commander of the Earth Federal Space Force, rendezvoused with Cima Garahau and her men in what was meant to be a covert meeting. While both parties were meeting, Albion inadvertently wandered into to the rendezvous area. Unaware of the ongoing secret meeting and believing Admiral Wyatt’s battleship to be under attack Synapse ordered Albion’s MS unit to launch. Cima and her men promptly retreated from the battlefield, but their Zanzibar II class cruiser Lili Marleen was unable to outdistance itself from Albion’s MS units, so Cima and her men launched from their ship to provide cover fire. To support the illusion that Albion was protecting the battleship Birmingham Admiral Wyatt ordered Birmingham to fire her main guns at the retreating Lili Marleen while making sure that the shots missed. Birmingham’s shot missed Lili Marleen, but did hit the Musai-class cruiser Nibelung, thereby ensuring Cima’s escape. Cima and her MS team engaged Lt. South Burning and his MS team, during which time two MS from Lili Marleen were lost. During the battle Lt. Burning recovered a suitcase containing valuable information on Operation Stardust; however, while returning to Albion his Mobile Suit exploded as a result of damage incurred while battling Cima. The death of Lt. Burning came as shock to those aboard Albion, especially to the MS pilots Bernard Monsha, Alpha A. Bate and Chap Adel, as they had all served under Lt. Burning in the 04th MS Team during the One Year War. Following Lt. Burning's death Captain Synapse exercised his command authority and promoted Alpha A. Bate and Kou Uraki one rank.
On 10 November, Albion was en route to the Naval Review when the missing Gundam Unit 2 was suddenly spotted heading directly toward the Federation fleet. Albion went into hyperdrive, launching all of her mobile suits in an effort to intercept Unit 2 before it reached the review, but the Mobile Suits failed to catch up in time, and Gundam Unit 2's MK-82 nuclear weapon was launched into the middle of the Federation's fleet. Fully 2/3rds of the Federation's fleet were destroyed or disabled. At the same time, two colonies were hijacked in mid transfer, sending one toward the moon. Captain Synapse ordered Albion to sail for La Vie en Rose, where he (forcefully) acquired the experimental Mobile Weapon RX-78GP03 Gundam Dendrobium Orchis, then departed at high speed toward the Delaz Fleet's hijacked colony, which was now headed for Earth. As Albion approached the colony Synapse received new orders from Bask Om to defend the Solar System II deployment with Cima's fleet. Synapse reluctantly complied, and ordered Gundam Unit 3 launched against the Delaz Fleet. Despite heroic effort from Kou Uraki and the Gundam Unit 3, the colony crossed over the point of no return, eventually impacting the American Midwest, none-the-less a heavily damaged Albion continued fighting until the last.
With the conclusion of Operation Stardust the Federation opened courts martial against certain people for actions undertaken during the crisis. For stealing Unit 3, Kou Uraki was sentenced to one year of hard labour, and Synapse was sentenced to death. Since the development of nuclear weapons was in violation of the Antarctic Treaty, all records of Gundam Unit 2 and subsequent events were deleted from official records, and the sentences likewise suspended.
It is unclear whether the Albion survived the damages incurred during the Delaz Fleet crisis, as the ship is not seen past UC0083.
See also
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References
[edit]- ^ Rounding citations allows us to avoid having to put a number at the end of each sentence in favor of citing all applicable information to the nearest site provided the all the information in preceding sentences or paragraph are being sited to the same source. A good example of this can be found on the page USS Wisconsin (BB-64), information in the World War and Korean War sections usually have a cite only at the end of the paragraph because the information is going to the same source. Other articles within our scope make use of this same system.
- ^ Synaps stated 211 men in the first episode of the series, however this number fluctuated during the series as the ship gained and lost men.
Other
[edit]- TOKYOPOP books. Mobile Suit Gundam 0083 Stardust Memory Technical Manual. ISBN 1-931514-06-2
- Animerica. Gundam Official Guide ISBN 1-56931-739-9
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Ghost in the Shell
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Major Motoko Kusanagi of Public Security, Section 9 |
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Gundam
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That "Thing"
[edit]http://www.news.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=45746
It looks like the sources I have now claim that on average 55 Marines would serve on a battleship. Does this count as a company, and if so would you have any way of knowing:
- Who the ranking officer among the Marines would be (I'd venture a guess its an O-3, but I would not swear to it),
- What the primary goal of having the Marines on a battleship would be (it seems to me like its too small a number for an kind of amphibious duty, though I grant that they could be put to work in other capacities)
- Which unit(s) had this duty (was there a designated unit for battleship ops, or was it sort of an ad hoc thing)
- Was there any special training needed to qualify for the duty?
I'm hoping the currently rewritten version of the Iowa class battleship article will eventually cover in better detail the role of the Marine Corps in the battleships' histories, but for that to happen I'm going need some help. Finding the number of Marines assigned to a battleship on average is a start, but I'm hoping we can do more than just note that the USMC was there. TomStar81 (Talk) 04:52, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
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External links (for reference)
[edit]http://users3.ev1.net/~cfmoore/history/1944normandy.html
USS William D. Porter (DD-579)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/mmedia/nation/111001-1v.htm
http://web.umr.edu/~rogersda/american&military_history/World%27s%20Fastest%20Battleships.pdf
http://www.eugeneleeslover.com/AMMUNITION/NAVORD-OP-769-APPENDIX-1-GENERAL-TURRET-DATA.html
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-03-08-san-francisco-battleship_x.htm
http://www.bb62museum.org/photos.html
USS New Jersey Link regarding Marines and the Iowas: http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Quarters/6747/21centbattleships.htm
Second Vinson Act Material (Maybe)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEsWe1KLsCw
DYK Link
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[edit]Armament of the Iowa class battleship
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Quotes
[edit]The Philosopher’s Stone. Those who possess it, no longer bound by the laws of equivalent exchange in alchemy. They gain without sacrifice, create without equal exchange. We searched for it, and we found it.
You under arrest for child cruelty, child endangerment, depriving children of food, selling children as food, and misrepresenting the weight of livestock.
http://www.gao.gov/archive/1999/ns99033.pdf
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File:Nagasakibomb.jpg War breeds innovation and it seems that only through conflict can we rapidly advance our military technology. --GDI Briefing 26-8/A: The Technological Advancements of the Second Tiberium War (TWII), Presented by First Lieutenant Chandra
"Another consideration is that the Navy's aircraft carriers have been spread thin responding to the many crises around the world today. The concpet of battleship battlegroups is seen by many as a possible solution to the problem of maintating a continuious naval presence in these areas without extending deployments and the resulting harmful effects on crew moral. <next paragrapgh> Battleship are particularly suited for operations in the middle east, northwestern pacifc and indian ocean where they can assume some of the responsibilities currently held by aircraft carriers, thereby providing those vessels and there crews with much needed relief." (ALl hands, april 1987)
"General Ship Supervisor Gary Petty said that when Ingalls workers opened long sealed tanks and viod aboard the battleshp they found that many of the mostly women shipyard workers who had built the ships in the 1940s had scratched personal messages and best wishes into the steel plate they were welding togather." (All Hands, June 1987)
Cher story on Missouri, All hands, October 1989.
A woman has a close male friend. This means that he is probably interested in her, which is why he hangs around so much. She sees him strictly as a friend. This always starts out with, you're a great guy, but I don't like you in that way. This is roughly the equivalent for the guy of going to a job interview and the company saying, You have a great resume, you have all the qualifications we are looking for, but we're not going to hire you. We will, however, use your resume as the basis for comparison for all other applicants. But, we're going to hire somebody who is far less qualified and is probably an alcoholic. And if he doesn't work out, we'll hire somebody else, but still not you. In fact, we will never hire you. But we will call you from time to time to complain about the person that we hired. - Bash.org
File:Japanesesuicide.jpg War loses a great deal of its romance after a soldier has seen his first battle. A have a more vivid recollection of the first than the last one I was in. It is a classical maxim that it is sweet and becoming to die for one's country; but whoever has seen the horrors of a battlefield feels that it is far sweeter to live for it. - Colonel John S. Mosby
File:Hubble ultra deep field high rez edit1.jpg Space. The final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship enterprise. Its continuing mission: to seek out new worlds and new life forms. To bold go where no man has gone before.
File:NORADCommandCenter.jpg War has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles, fought by mercenaries and machines. War, and its consumption of life, has become a well-oiled machine. War has changed. ID tagged soldiers carry ID tagged weapons, use ID tagged gear. Nanomachines inside their bodies enhance and regulate their abilities. Genetic control. Information control. Emotion control. Battlefield control. Everything is monitored, and kept under control. War has changed. The age of deterrence has become the age of control. All in the name of averting catastrophe from weapons of mass destruction. And he who controls the battlefield, controls history. War has changed. When the battlefield is under total control, war...becomes routine. - Old Snake, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
File:Jimmie W. Monteith Jr. Gravemarker 03.jpg Dear Madam, I have been shown in the files of the War Department a statement of the Adjutant-General of Massachusetts, that you are the mother of five sons who have died gloriously on the field of battle. I feel how weak and fruitless must be any words of mine which should attempt to beguile you from the grief of a loss so overwhelming. But I cannot refrain from tendering to you the consolation that may be found in the thanks of the Republic they died to save. I pray that our Heavenly Father may assuage the anguish of your bereavement, and leave you only the cherished memory of the loved and lost, and the solemn pride that must be yours, to have laid so costly a sacrifice upon the altar of Freedom. Yours, very sincerely and respectfully, Abraham Lincoln - Letter to Mrs. Bixby in Boston
File:Bodies on the battlefield at antietam.jpg "A house divided against itself cannot stand." I believe this government cannot endure, permanently half slave and half free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved — I do not expect the house to fall — but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing or all the other. - Speech at the Republican State Convention, Springfield, Illinois, accepting the Republican nomination for US Senate, (16 June 1858)
File:Honneur à la Croix-Rouge-1915.JPG With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations. - second inagural address
Fellow Terrans, I come to you in the wake of recent events to issue a call to reason. Let no human deny the perils of our time. While we battle one another, divided by the petty strife of our common history, the tide of greater conflict is turning against us, threatening to destroy all that we have accomplished. It is time for us as nations and as individuals to set aside our long-standing feuds and unite. The tides of an unwinnable war are upon us, and we must seek refuge on higher ground, lest we be swept away by the flood.
The Confederacy is no more! Whatever symbols of unity and protection it once provided is a phantom, a memory. With our enemies left unchecked, who will you turn to for protection? The devastation brought by the alien invaders is self-evident. We have seen our homes and villages destroyed by the calculated blows of the Protoss. We have seen first hand our friends and loved ones consumed by the nightmarish Zerg. Unprecedented and unimaginable though they may be, these are the signs of our time.
The time has come, my fellow Terrans, to rally to a new banner. In unity lies strength; already many of the dissident factions have joined us. Out of the many we shall forge an indivisible whole capitulating only to a single throne, and from that throne I shall watch over you. From this day forward let no human make war upon any other human, let no Terran agency conspire against this new beginning, and let no man consort with alien powers, and to all the enemies of humanity: seek not to bar our way, for we shall win through, no matter the cost! - Coronation Speech of Arcturus Mengsk I, Emperor of the Terran Dominion
Now shall the events set into motion so long ago be made complete. For the Protoss, too, were created by the Xel'Naga. They were the first creation, gifted with a purity of form. And we were the second creation, blessed with a purity of essence. Indeed, our two species are but opposite facets of a greater whole. Soon shall our two races be made as one. Thenceforth shall all feel the wrath of the eternal Swarm... For the hour of judgment is come! - Speech to the broods delivered on the eve of the invasion of Auir by the extended Zerg Swarm
Executor. Tassadar. This comes too late to you. But the Conclave has witnessed your defeat of the Cerebrate. They know now that they cannot deny the necessity or the valiancy of your actions. We sought to punish you, while it was we who were in error. You represent what is greatest in us all, and all our hopes go with you. EN TARO ADUN, brave Sons of Aiur! - Message delivered by Ladaris to the Execeutor on the eve of the final assault against the Overmind on Auir
File:ImperialSurrenderRescriptPrint.jpg Dearest Helena, by now the news of our defeat has reached the Earth. The creatures we were sent here to tame are untameable, and the colonies we were sent here to reclaim have proven to be stronger than we anticipated. Whatever you may hear about what has happened out here, know this: Alexei did not die gloriously in battle. I killed him—my pride killed him. And now my pride has consumed me as well. You will never see me again, Helena. Tell our children that I love them, and that their father died in defense of their future. Au revoir. - Letter from Admiral Gerald Dugalle to Helen upon the defeat of the UED expeditionary force in the Krupala sector
Image:BattleOfShanghaiBaby.gif We who have seen war, will never stop seeing it. In the silence of the night, we will always hear the screams. So this is our story, for we were soldiers once, and young. - Epligoue of the movie We Were Soldiers
In the world, it became a legend before it even rolled of the production line. Shrouded by mantel of stealth, it can fly into harms way, deliver 40,000 pounds of destruction, and remain almost undetectable. Now: the B-2 Stealth Bomber, on Modern Marvels.
My dear Mrs Ryan: It's with the most profound sense of joy that I write to inform you your son, Private James Ryan, is well and, at this very moment, on his way home from European battlefields. Reports from the front indicate James did his duty in combat with great courage and steadfast dedication, even after he was informed of the tragic loss your family has suffered in this great campaign to rid the world of tyranny and oppresion. I take great pleasure in joining the Secretary of War, the men and women of the U.S. Army, and the citizens of a grateful nation in wishing you good health and many years of happiness with James at your side. Nothing, not even the safe return of a beloved son, can compensate you, or the thousands of other American families, who have suffered great loss in this tragic war. I might share with you some words which have sustained me through long, dark nights of peril, loss, and heartache. And I quote: "I pray that our Heavenly Father may assuage the anguish of your bereavement, and leave you only the cherished memory of the loved and lost, and the solemn pride that must be yours to have laid so costly a sacrifice upon the alter of freedom." -Abraham Lincoln. Yours very sincerely and respectfully, George C. Marshall, General, Chief of Staff.
I know that we're in a time of war. My brothers and my sisters, trouble don't last always. Over every mountain, and through every valley, we shall prevail. Power to the saint, and to those that have no might. Your strength shall be increased. We must never, never, never give up! You got to hold on, now, Till every battle has been fought, And every victory has been won. We're gonna shout hallelujah, Till it's over, and till it's done. No need to worry, and no need to cry. I can see the dawn, of a brand new day. You're going to make it, you're going to make it, We're going to be victorious!
File:Da Vinci Vitruve Luc Viatour.jpg The souls that god has given us, our spirits, our spirits, which found a way to swim through the immense network and live in the infinity of space. Is not the human body a mere shell, a form of existence all too small and weak for consciousness with such vast reach and potential? - Concluding speech by Londes, Cowboy Bebop episode 24
File:September 14 2001 Ground Zero 02.jpg Fate rarely calls upon us at a moment of our choosing. - Optimus Prime, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
My day? Un-freakin' believable. First we nailed this bastard who had the gall to hide his stuff in his daughter's doll--HER DOLL for God's sake! Where's the line anymore? Well, I got news for ya, it's not even on the radar screen! The days of decency and virtue are gone, honey, BAM, freakin' evaporated like a dingy stinkin' mudpuddle. One day you see your reflection in it and the next day it's a, it's a damn oil spot on your cracked driveway, staring back at you, mocking you, knowing the perverted truths that rot in the pit of your soul. That's how my freakin' day was! -Brain Griffin, Family Guy
That ... I ... I reject you, and I reject everything you believe. Why do people lie, it isn't only because they struggle against each other, it's also because there is something that they're seeking. You now want a world without change. How stagnant, you could hardly call it life. The same as a world of memories, just a world that's closed and completed, that's a place I wouldn't want to live in. - Lelouch vi Brittania, Code Geass
If this is what they call destiny...then no amount of fighting can stop it...that's what we're born for...and that's why we die. If that's what they call destiny...no amount of fighting can stop it..the ones who arrive first on this path no one can see, are those who have lost their lives. That's a result of God's guidance..." - Final word of Emilio Ribisi, Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Rebirth
A wealthy Roman matron says to a rabbinic sage, “Since your Creator God made the universe in seven days, what’s he been doing since?” The Sage replied, “He’s been making couples.” The Roman woman says, “I can do that!” She proceeds to command one hundred slaves to be coupled off and sends them to a great dwelling. After one night, the place is in shambles; the couples have fought and degenerated into chaos. In defeat and shame, she goes back to the Sage and says, “Oh, that’s no minor thing that your God does.”
According to Yale Chaplain Rabbi James Ponet, traditional (Judeo-Christian) ideas about soul mates are summed up in this 2nd Century story:
File:New York's New Solar System2.jpg "There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious—makes you so sick at heart—that you can't take part. You can't even passively take part. And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all." Mario Savio, speaking at the Sproul Hall Steps, December 2, 1964[1]
God's in his heaven, all is right with the world.
"Play the man, Master Ridley; we shall this day light such a candle, by God's grace, in England, as I trust shall never be put out."
"This new existence, this new warrior of the deep, yesterday was an 'it', a mere structure of steel, a stout hull powered by mighty engines and studded with cannon. Today this inanimate 'it' becomes 'she', a being endowed with the living character of personality, with a soul and with purpose. A lovely lady, but a lovely lady who will have her angry moments..." Captain Holden, 1st commander officer of the battleship USS New Jersey (BB-62), on the occasion of the ships commissioning.
File:Goddess of Democracy replica.jpg The project of organizing a democratic political movement entails the hope that one's ideas and beliefs are not merely idiosyncratic but speak to vital human needs, interests and desires, and therefore will be persuasive to many and ultimately most people. But this is a very different matter from deciding to put forward only those ideas presumed (accurately or not) to be compatible with what most people already believe. - Ellen Willis
File:Queen Boudica by John Opie.jpg "But now," she said, "it is not as a woman descended from noble ancestry, but as one of the people that I am avenging lost freedom, my scourged body, the outraged chastity of my daughters. Roman lust has gone so far that not our very persons, nor even age or virginity, are left unpolluted. But heaven is on the side of a righteous vengeance; a legion which dared to fight has perished; the rest are hiding themselves in their camp, or are thinking anxiously of flight. They will not sustain even the din and the shout of so many thousands, much less our charge and our blows. If you weigh well the strength of the armies, and the causes of the war, you will see that in this battle you must conquer or die. This is a woman's resolve; as for men, they may live and be slaves."
File:Roman Millitary banner.svg "Ignore the racket made by these savages. There are more women than men in their ranks. They are not soldiers - they're not even properly equipped. We've beaten them before and when they see our weapons and feel our spirit, they'll crack. Stick together. Throw the javelins, then push forward: knock them down with your shields and finish them off with your swords. Forget about plunder. Just win and you'll have everything."
Disturb not the harmony of fire, ice or lightning, lest these titans wreak destruction upon the world in which they clash. Though the water's great guardian shall arise to quell the fighting, alone its song will fail, and thus the earth shall turn to ash. O Chosen One, into thine hands bring together all three. Their treasures combined tame the Beast of the Sea. --Shamouti Prophecy
"My friends, it has often been said that I like war. Friends, I like war. No, friends, I love war! I love holocausts. I love blitzkriegs. I love defensive lines. I love sieges, charges, I love mop-up operations, and retreats. Wars across prairies, in streets, in trenches, in grasslands, in frozen tundras, through deserts, on the sea, in the air, I love every act of war that can occur upon this earth.
I love blasting the enemy to smithereens with artillery salvos that thunder across the lines of battle. My heart leaps with joy whenever a soldier is tossed high into the air and cut to pieces by well placed sniper rounds, and there is nothing like a tank operator using a Tiger 88 to destroy enemy tanks. And the feeling that comes when a soldier runs screaming from his blazing tank only to be mowed down by heavy machine gun fire, is such an exquisite feeling. Like when ranks of infantry brandish their bayonets rushing into the enemy line. It moves me deep within my heart to watch a fresh recruit stabbing over and over into the bloated chest of a long-dead enemy.
The sight of deserters being strung up from a street lamp is an irresistible pleasure. And there is nothing more arousing, than the sounds made by prisoners of war dropping like flies, screaming in agony as they're mowed down by ear piercing schmeissers! When a band of pitiful resistance fighters makes their final stands with nothing but small arms, only to have their city smashed to atoms block by block by 4.8 ton bombshells, I'm in ecstasy.
I love it when my forces are ravaged by a Russian armored division. It's so sad to see towns and villages that were supposed to be defended at all costs, being laid to waste, their women and children being raped, and killed. I love to be squashed under the heel of the British and American war machines. The humiliation, as my men crawl around like vermin, ducking the jagdbombers flying overhead.
Gentlemen, all I ask for is war. A war so grand as to make Hell itself tremble. Gentlemen, I ask you as fellow brothers in arms, what is it you really want? Do you wish for further war as I do? Do you wish for a merciless, bloody war? A war whose fury is built with iron, and lightning, and fire? Do you ask for war to sweep in like a tempest, leaving not even ravens to scavenge from this Earth?!"
["Krieg! Krieg! Krieg! Krieg, krieg, krieg!]
Very well. Then krieg is what you shall have. We are a clenched fist, ready to strike down all who oppose us with our might. But, after enduring over half a century wallowing in the darkness, for us, a simple, "ordinary" war will no longer be sufficient. We need a massive war! A war beyond any other that man's history has ever known! We are but a single battalion, the remnants of a defeated army numbering less than a thousand strong. However, I believe that each of you old warriors is worth a thousand of their sickly soft children! We represent a force that could easily defeat an army of a million and one men!
It is time for them to awake, the ones who sent us screaming into oblivion, and who now lie sleeping. Let's drag them out of bed by the hair, and remind them of what we are! We will remind them of what it feels like to live in fear. We will remind them of the sound our jackboots make against their throats.
We will remind them, that there are more things between Heaven and Hell than are dreamt of in their philosophy. Our kampfgruppe of one thousand vampires is going to burn this world down to ash. Yes, my friends! Soon, Europe's charred remains will illuminate the night sky! I have brought you all back just as I promised I would. Back to our favorite battlefield. Back to our beloved war!
[Major! Sturmbannführer! Battalion commander! Major! Sturmbannführer! Battalion commander!]
At last, the sea lion has crossed the ocean and is heading up the hill! Attention soldiers of the Millennium battalion, this is a message from your commander! Friends, let's bring them Hell."
Ashira l'Adonai ki-gaoh gaah: I will sing unto the LORD, for he hath triumphed gloriously [Exodus 15:1]
Mi-khamokha ba'elim Adonai: Who is like unto thee, O LORD, among the gods? [Exodus 15:11]
Mi kamokha ne'dar baqodesh: Who is like thee, glorious in holiness [Exodus 15:11]
"Let the word go forth from this time and place, to friend and foe alike, that the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans, born in this century, tempered by war, disciplined by a hard and bitter peace, proud of our ancient heritage, and unwilling to witness or permit the slow undoing of those human rights to which this nation has always been committed, and to which we are committed today, at home and around the world!"
-- John Fitzgerald Kennedy
The Killing Ground
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Far over the Misty Mountains cold, To dungeons deep and caverns old, We must away, ere break of day, To seek our pale enchanted gold.
The dwarves of yore made mighty spells, While hammers fell like ringing bells, In places deep, where dark things sleep, In hollow halls beneath the fells.
For ancient king and elvish lord There many a gleaming golden hoard They shaped and wrought, and light they caught, To hide in gems on hilt of sword.
On silver necklaces they strung The flowering stars, on crowns they hung The dragon-fire, on twisted wire They meshed the light of moon and sun.
Far over the Misty Mountains cold, To dungeons deep and caverns old, We must away, ere break of day, To claim our long-forgotten gold.
Goblets they carved there for themselves, And harps of gold, where no man delves There lay they long, and many a song Was sung unheard by men or elves.
The pines were roaring on the heights, The wind was moaning in the night, The fire was red, it flaming spread, The trees like torches blazed with light.
The bells were ringing in the dale, And men looked up with faces pale. The dragon's ire, more fierce than fire, Laid low their towers and houses frail.
The mountain smoked beneath the moon. The dwarves, they heard the tramp of doom. They fled the hall to dying fall Beneath his feet, beneath the moon.
Far over the Misty Mountains grim, To dungeons deep and caverns dim, We must away, ere break of day, To win our harps and gold from him!
The wind was on the withered heath, But in the forest stirred no leaf: There shadows lay be night or day, And dark things silent crept beneath.
The wind came down from mountains cold, And like a tide it roared and rolled. The branches groaned, the forest moaned, And leaves were laid upon the mould.
The wind went on from West to East; All movement in the forest ceased. But shrill and harsh across the marsh, Its whistling voices were released.
The grasses hissed, their tassels bent, The reeds were rattling--on it went. O'er shaken pool under heavens cool, Where racing clouds were torn and rent.
It passed the Lonely Mountain bare, And swept above the dragon's lair: There black and dark lay boulders stark, And flying smoke was in the air.
It left the world and took its flight Over the wide seas of the night. The moon set sale upon the gale, And stars were fanned to leaping light.
Under the Mountain dark and tall, The King has come unto his hall! His foe is dead, the Worm of Dread, And ever so his foes shall fall!
The sword is sharp, the spear is long, The arrow swift, the Gate is strong. The heart is bold that looks on gold; The dwarves no more shall suffer wrong.
The dwarves of yore made mighty spells, While hammers fell like ringing bells In places deep, where dark things sleep, In hollow halls beneath the fells.
On silver necklaces they strung The light of stars, on crowns they hung The dragon-fire, from twisted wire The melody of harps they wrung.
The mountain throne once more is freed! O! Wandering folk, the summons heed! Come haste! Come haste! Across the waste! The king of freind and kin has need.
Now call we over the mountains cold, 'Come back unto the caverns old!' Here at the gates the king awaits, His hands are rich with gems and gold.
The king has come unto his hall Under the Mountain dark and tall. The Worm of Dread is slain and dead, And ever so our foes shall fall!
Farewell we call to hearth and hall! Though wind may blow and rain may fall, We must away, ere break of day Far over the wood and mountain tall.
To Rivendell, where Elves yet dwell In glades beneath the misty fell. Through moor and waste we ride in haste, And whither then we cannot tell.
With foes ahead, behind us dread, Beneath the sky shall be our bed, Until at last our toil be passed, Our journey done, our errand sped.
We must away! We must away! We ride before the break of day!
Always take pride in the lives that were given you [...] In the end, what matters is not how long we've lived, but how fully we've lived. - Toonami Animated Music Video The Choice is Yours
"Long ago, a storm was heading for the city of Quin'lat. Everyone took protection within the walls except one man who remained outside. I went to him and asked what he was doing. "I am not afraid," the man said. "I will not hide my face behind stone and mortar. I will stand before the wind and make it respect me." I honored his choice and went inside. The next day, the storm came, and the man was killed. The wind does not respect a fool. Do not stand before the wind, Gowron."
- Kahless
In this grave hour, perhaps the most fateful in our history, I send to every household of my peoples, both at home and overseas this message, spoken with the same depth of feeling for each one of you as if I were able to cross your threshold and speak to you myself. For the second time in the lives of most of us we are at war. Over and over again we have tried to find a peaceful way out of the differences between ourselves and those who are now our enemies, but it has been in vain. We have been forced into a conflict. For we are called, to meet the challenge of a principle which, if were to prevail would be fatal to any civilized order in the world. Such a principle, stripped of all disguise, is surely mere primitive doctrine that might is right. For the sake of all that we ourselves hold dear it is unthinkable that we should refuse to meet the challenge. It is to this high purpose that I now call my people at home and my peoples across the seas who will make our cause their own. I ask them to stand calm and firm, and united in this time of trial. The task will be hard. There may be dark days ahead, and war can no longer be confide to the battlefield. But we can only do the right as we see the right, and reverently commit our cause to God. If one and all we keep resolutely faithful to it, then, with God's help, we shall prevail. - Speech by King George VI, The Kings Speech
“I see a beautiful city and a brilliant people rising from this abyss. I see the lives for which I lay down my life, peaceful, useful, prosperous and happy. I see that I hold a sanctuary in their hearts, and in the hearts of their descendants, generations hence. It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known.” ― Charles Dickens, A Tale of Two Cities
File:Red Cross Nurse by Theodor Grust.jpg "With these hands, you delivered a baby. You saved his life, and his mother's. With these hands, you gave me an arm and leg to stand with. These hands aren't meant to take lives, but save them." - Edward Elric, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
"What I was learning was that there are some events that are so overwhelming that you can't simply be a witness. You can't be above it. You can't be neutral. You can't be untouched by it. Simple as that. You see it, you live it, you experience it, and it will be with you all of your days." - Joseph L. Galloway, speaking about his experience during the Battle of Ia Drang
Tojo Five-One:This is Tojo 5-1 to any friendly units in D.C., Hammerdown is in effect. I repeat, Hammerdown is in effect. If you are receiving this transmission, you are in a hardened high-value structure. Deploy green flares on the roof of this structure to indicate that you are still combat effective. We will abort our mission on direct visual contact with this counter-sign. - Modern Warfare 2 (Whiskey Hotel)
...and I heard as it were, the noise of thunder. And I looked and behold was death saying, come and see. And I saw. And Hell followed me. Revelation 6:6-7(?)
"The thing about Akira power is it exist within everyone from the start but when that power is awaken inside it is important to wisely choose how to use it, when the time comes you might not know it let alone be prepared for it." - Akira
"Crossing the mountains,the deserts, and plains. Fighting the heat,the cold, and the rain, Summer to autumn, winter to spring. Bring'em up, lay'em down, make the hammers ring. Building a new road under the wheel. Bind up the earth in iron and steel. Working east, working west, we 're building our way. On bad food, hard liquor, and a dollar a day." - national geographic love those trains video
Be Seated
Now, I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country.
Men, all this stuff you've heard about America not wanting to fight, wanting to stay out of the war, is a lot of horse dung. Americans, traditionally, love to fight. All real Americans love the sting of battle.
When you were kids, you all admired the champion marble shooter, the fastest runner, the big league ball players, the toughest boxers. Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser. Americans play to win all the time.
Now, I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost and will never lose a war. Because the very thought of losing is hateful to Americans.
Now, an army is a team. It lives, eats, sleeps, fights as a team. This individuality stuff is a bunch of crap. The bilious bastards who wrote that stuff about individuality for the Saturday Evening Post don't know anything more about real battle than they do about fornicating.
Now, we have the finest food and equipment, the best spirit, and the best men in the world. You know, by God, I actually pity those poor bastards we're going up against. By God, I do. We're not just going to shoot the bastards. We're going to cut out their living guts and use them to grease the treads of our tanks. We're going to murder those lousy Hun bastards by the bushel.
Now, some of you boys, I know, are wondering whether or not you'll chicken-out under fire. Don't worry about it. I can assure you that you will all do your duty. The Nazis are the enemy. Wade into them. Spill their blood. Shoot them in the belly. When you put your hand into a bunch of goo that a moment before was your best friend's face, you'll know what to do.
Now there's another thing I want you to remember. I don't want to get any messages saying that we are holding our position. We're not holding anything. Let the Hun do that. We are advancing constantly and we're not interested in holding onto anything -- except the enemy. We're going to hold onto him by the nose, and we're gonna kick him in the ass. We're gonna kick the hell out of him all the time, and we're gonna go through him like crap through a goose!
Now, there's one thing that you men will be able to say when you get back home, and you may thank God for it. Thirty years from now when you're sitting around your fireside with your grandson on your knee, and he asks you, "What did you do in the great World War II?" -- you won't have to say, "Well, I shoveled shit in Louisiana."
Alright now you sons-of-bitches, you know how I feel. Oh, I will be proud to lead you wonderful guys into battle anytime, anywhere.
That's all.
— Patton (1970 film)
Lugia, why are all those Pokemon down there?
- Because they feel they must be here, in case they are needed
But what could they do to help?
- They are not sure, and that is why they are here.
What do you mean?
- That just one Pokemon could help the world would be worth the journey for thousands of them any day, but this day the one that can make all the difference is you.
— Ash speaking to Lugia, Pokemon, the Power of One
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[edit]Hiya. I have an article up at FAC at the moment and have encountered an unexpected setback: navweaps.com, a site I use because I feel it to be reliable, has been called questionable by a participant in the FAC. I asked on the coordinator page for the MILHIST project, and my and one other coordinator are of the opinion that the website is a reliable source becuase of the sources section sited on the individual weapon pages used in the inline citations, such as this one on the main guns of the Iowa and Montana class of battleships (scroll all the way to the bottom and you will see what I mean). I bear the editor (Wackymacs, I believe, is his screen name) no malice for his repeated questioning of the sources, but I need an honest, outside opinion on the website's suitability as a source from a group that is independent of the entire review, and from where I stand that would be this venue since no one here has (to my knowledge) commented on the FAC, nor do I believe anyone here has any plans to. That makes this the most neutral place I can ask this question. All I need to know for sure is whether the site qualifies as reliable by Wikipedia standards, or whether I need to go deeper into the sourcing. TomStar81 (Talk) 05:22, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Let's start with asking you why you think it is reliable. It's a personal web page, and normally those aren't considered reliable for a purpose like this. There are of course exceptions. A web page on cosmology by Stephen Hawking would be considered reliable, but if he wrote a web page on naval weapons we'd probably call in unreliable in Wikipedia terms. Reliability is not the default. Doug Weller (talk) 06:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Two big reasons: one, it agrees with everything I have heard from a volenteer crewman working with the Battleship Missouri Memorial, and two because Tony has cited his sources on all of the pages. For me, that makes the source reliable, but I admit to being bias insofar as having the site ruled reliable works in favor, which is why I have come here for an outside opinion rather then judge for myself or asking MILHIST.
- My opinion isn't very weighty, but I believe it to be neutral in relation to this particular case and I'm happy to offer it.
- WP:RS says early on that reliable sources are credible published materials with a reliable publication process; their authors are generally regarded as trustworthy or authoritative in relation to the subject at hand. I see that your source describes its publication process here and the process described looks to be to be a careful one with the author/publisher of your source being knowledgeable, experienced, and concerned with fact-checking and accuracy. He lists his on-hand reference sources for vetting new material here. He doesn't seem to be very heavily cited in WP (the query "site:enbaike.710302.xyz navweaps.com" produces 95 hits with google, 226 with yahoo), but perhaps that is because of the specialized subject matter. Removing the site: qualifier boosts those numbers to 11,100 and 1,010 respectively.
- It is a self-published source, however. WP:SPS says that self-published material may, in some circumstances, be acceptable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications. The example item from that source provides cites of "data from" sources as supporting sources for the material in that item. Your source is owned and operated by Tony DiGiulian , and I see him cited as an expert in books published in the relevant field here and here
- Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with your source. I wouldn't remove a cite and wouldn't hesitate to cite it myself. One of the Wikipedia:Featured article criteria requires that FACs must be "factually accurate: claims are verifiable against reliable sources, accurately represent the relevant body of published knowledge, and are supported with specific evidence and external citations". That doesn't impose any additional criteria beyond what is expected of all WP, articles — it just says that FACs must meet WP's V and RS criteria. FWIW, my opinion is that this source meets WP's V and RS criteria. -- Boracay Bill (talk) 07:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with Boracay Bill's analysis. Additional support is lent by other high quality book citations to the site: Australian Cruiser: Perth 1939-1942, Exploitation of a Ship's Magnetic Field Signatures, Vietnam Ironclads: A Pictorial History of U. S. Navy River Assault Craft and The History Highway: A 21st Century Guide to Internet Resources. John Z (talk) 09:26, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- I also agree, it is clear that although this is a personal website it meets the qualifications required for a source. (sorry, forgot to sign) Doug Weller (talk) 16:22, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you for the help. I apreciate it. From here I should be able to handle the rest of the issues with the article's FAC on mine own. Keep up the good work, and thank you for the timely response. TomStar81 (Talk) 19:51, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Finding a U.S. Congressional Report
[edit]I was wondering if anyone would know where to go to locate a US Congressional issued report. The name is "U.S.S. Iowa tragedy : an investigative failure : report of the Investigations Subcommittee and Defense Policy Panel of the Committee on Armed Services, House of Representatives, One Hundred First Congress, second session, March 5, 1990", if that helps. 129.108.97.112 (talk) 00:14, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
- Designated Federal depository libraries have all those publications... AnonMoos (talk) 00:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
- If you (or someone else) has LexisNexis access, it is available online through LexisNexis Congressional. --98.217.8.46 (talk) 00:56, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
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In recognition of the direction, guidance, resources, assistance, and supervision that you provide to the Military history Project which helps us perform their duties in an efficient and timely manner I hereby bestow upon AnomieBOT the rank insignia of Chief Warrant Officer, 3. Your assistance in archiving milhist xfd is appreciated, and in light of this I thought an award was in order. TomStar81 (Talk) 11:02, 3 December 2010 (UTC) |
Great moments in Wikipedia history
[edit]- Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Pyfan
- Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Coordinators
http://www.watchcartoononline.com/ghost-in-the-shell-stand-alone-complex-episode-22-english-dubbed
- Siege of Tsingtao - November Op-Ed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdI0wAOPXTQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTetKxtmI9c&feature=related
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The draft is good, and I have no objection with adopting it for the official special project award; however we do need to work out how we are going to get the award out in its multi-tiered form before we go with the colors so you will know how many colors we are going to need. I would propose to start the discussion on the matter of the award levels by suggesting that we:
- Award the lowest level of the cross for those among us who participate in or initiate 5 PRs,
- Award the second level of the cross to those among us who participate in or initiate 5 GAs,
- Award the third level for those who participate in or initiate 5 ACRs,
- Award the forth level up for those who nominate or participate in five FAs,
- Award the fifth level up to those who were key to a class gaining or maintaining GT status,
- Award the highest level to those who were key to a class gaining or maintaining an FT.
If we adopt a system like this then we would need to have six different colors for the Titan's cross, however the careful wording for each allows for those who main not necessarily be strong in any one area to assist by virtue of participation.
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