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Hi back,

French user, active in Wikipédia with accent, developed a bad habit to breed Avatars which I don't call personally sock puppets ; since they don't behave the troll way (voting where they shouldn't etc... - you know the kinda folks). This personal tendency existed previously to the era of Wikis. Purpose is to flee any loud WHAT DID YOU DO THERE IT'S A SHAME I'LL HUNT YOU DOWN behaviors, as I beholded.

So this theatrical ID pretended to be a barbaric woman from Early Middle Ages, from gothic roots and german speaking, and stereotypic feminity as we may think today (brutal manners), rising in FR environment to fight against the habit we, the French, had to describe any germanic people (lest the Franks, uh ?) to be barbarians that handle the responsibility of :

  1. the fall of Rome + breaking latin unity in Western Europe.
  2. the invasion of France (1870) [led to a new Empire in Germania]
  3. the other invasion of northern France (1914) [countered]
  4. yet another invasion of France ( YAIOF, pretty not Yahoo! : 1940) [well, you know]

Reality is a formerly achieved fluency in English, poorly used, a scholar 4 years in German practically lost (this is a state of barbary from my own memory !) and a recent Spanish language self learned from scratch to a pretty good level, which left me with a thirst of culture. Gothic influence & Islamic sciences were passed to Europe from that peninsula, this is not minor, but it is easily forgotten due to current world oppositions. Anyhow WP project started after 9/11, so any POV concerning those subjects could hardly be set apart from it, good or bad.

Success is at hand since nowadays pupils from France and Germany are taught the Völkerwanderung a much more neutral way than the ways adults were taught (teacher opening this day's lesson as : THE BARBARIC INVASIONS). Results are a (well, I guess)-balanced article about revanchism, go-to-war ideology that motivated this way of teaching history since (#2 event above) came on both sides of the Rhine. A Wikiproject FR is up and running to get rid of any misuse of Barbarians in our [ [ History of... / by area ] ] articles.

I guess next generation of younglings in Wikipedia will be ready to express themselves about the 5thCE period of time, should adults shut up.

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In fact, hatred made the English in WWII (Blitz : justified) name the enemy the same way, refering to Huns to relate the violence of Attila to the one of the Wehrmacht - part of a war of ideas that doubles the battlefield each time. However, this is not my main focus. France and Germany slowly learnt from their history to cope together in peace, that's the real benefit.

Last-but-not-least article is in Commons with that synthetis page : Maps showing the history of the Early Middle Ages. Please read along and help improve the fluency of my English in that page.

Current reading is an awesome book about the quest of the Goths from Scandinavian shores to Dacia, passing by Italy to nest in the Wisigothic kingdom of Hispania. the author, a French woman that teaches at prestigious "La Sorbonne", writes without any B-a-r-b-a-r-i-a-n-s word in her text, or at least unjustified uses. This book kills any remnants of stereotypic or ideologic views surrounding. The first experience of Vassality in the territory of Francia in first formation at that time comes from the gothic society (an example of a germanic civilization, Northern Europe til 3thCE before it was heavily changed at the contact of Latin culture.) that settled its germanic habits & rights as a new power structure in their node kingdom of Gallia Aquitania, recalled Gothia Aquitanica momentarily. I liked reading it, though any attempt to sum up its content would reduce the quality of what it brings in itself...

Behave ! I revealed my nature and motives there. Quite a show, I don't have that kind of habit back home...
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Ultrogothe 09:43, 14 September 2006 (UTC) - updated 10:03, 14 September 2006 (UTC)



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