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Your submission at Articles for creation: Recovery Centers of America (July 18)

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by DGG was: This submission is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: Thisi s essentially advertising

DGG ( talk ) 05:39, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

July 2019

There have been two problems with this account: the account has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, and your username indicates that the account represents a business or other organisation or group or a web site, which is also against policy, as an account must be for just one person. Because of those problems, the account has been blocked indefinitely from editing. Additionally, if you receive, or expect to receive, compensation for your contributions to Wikipedia, you must disclose who is paying you to edit.

If you intend to make useful contributions about some topic other than your business or organisation, you may request an unblock. To do so, post the text {{unblock-spamun|Your proposed new username|Your reason here}} at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with a new username you are willing to use. See Special:CentralAuth to search for available usernames. Your new username will need to meet our username policy. Replace the text "Your reason here" with your reason to be unblocked. In that reason, you must:

Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the kind of edits for which you were blocked.
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If you believe this block was made in error, you may appeal this block. To do so, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} at the bottom of your talk page, replace the text "Your reason here" with your reason for thinking that the block was an error, and publish the page. 331dot (talk) 16:13, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without a good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

404DelendaEst (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Requested username:

DelendaEst (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Request reason:

First off I DID NOT advertise on Wikipedia, I disclosed the fact that I am a Recovery Centers of America employee, and then made a DRAFT and submitted it to AfC with intent of making sure that my submission was tuned in line with Wikipedia standards before it was posted. I did not know about naming policy, naming my account RecoveryCOA was another attempt at being transparent about the fact that I am employed by the company I am writing about, this account is only for one person. I gota say though, my attempts to be transparent and follow wikipedia COI guidelines to the best of my abilities are not working in my favor so far and I feel like some mods are incentivizing undisclosed paid editing by making it super hard to do it after COI disclosure. The company I work for, Recovery Centers of America, is one of the biggest companies in the US addiction treatment field and it was always my intention to contribute to other wikipedia articles in said field, not just the one for the company I work for, though that is obviously one of the main focuses. I really hope some one will take the time to help me get the article I am attempting to submit in line with the rules instead of trying to get me to go take a hike with poorly substantiated denials and bans.

Decline reason:

pro forma duplicated below Dlohcierekim (talk) 03:49, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

rename to DelendaEst not successful

I'm sorry, but the chosen username, DelendaEst, is too similar to an existing username or it used to be username of someone else that got renamed: Delendaest. Please make another selection. Dlohcierekim (talk) 18:01, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without a good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

404DelendaEst (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Requested username:

404DelendaEst (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Request reason:

First off I DID NOT advertise on Wikipedia, I disclosed the fact that I am a Recovery Centers of America employee, and then made a DRAFT and submitted it to AfC with intent of making sure that my submission was tuned in line with Wikipedia standards before it was posted. I did not know about naming policy, naming my account RecoveryCOA was another attempt at being transparent about the fact that I am employed by the company I am writing about, this account is only for one person. I gota say though, my attempts to be transparent and follow wikipedia COI guidelines to the best of my abilities are not working in my favor so far and I feel like some mods are incentivizing undisclosed paid editing by making it super hard to do it after COI disclosure. The company I work for, Recovery Centers of America, is one of the biggest companies in the US addiction treatment field and it was always my intention to contribute to other wikipedia articles in said field, not just the one for the company I work for, though that is obviously one of the main focuses. I really hope some one will take the time to help me get the article I am attempting to submit in line with the rules instead of trying to get me to go take a hike with poorly substantiated denials and bans.

Decline reason:

The new username is fine, and your attempts to comply with the COI policy are laudable. However, the draft you created is severely biased in favour of your employer, and reads like a website or advertisement. You have gone to great lengths to ensure that readers know how extensive the RCoA's treatment programs are and where they can be found, but where, for example, is this source? Or this one? A one-sided article like this violates Wikipedia's policy on neutral content, and verges on spam. If you want to be unblocked, I think an agreement to avoid writing about RCoA - at least until you have a few thousand decent edits under your belt - would be a prerequisite. You've already stated that there are other areas you want to work in - would you be willing to agree to such a restriction? Yunshui ^雲 _水 07:32, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

globally renamed RecoveryCOA to 404DelendaEst

globally renamed RecoveryCOA to 404DelendaEst Dlohcierekim (talk) 03:50, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

User:Yunshui/decline promo renamed

For some context, the negative articles you mentioned are both part of the only negative news batch about RCA and are based on just one of RCA's eight facilities, the one in Danvers, MA. It was opened soon after the company was founded in a state outside the companies headquarters and unfortunately there were mistakes made. It's hard to make all facilities perfect from the get go, there's always some learning curve with any new endeavor. That said, we fixed all the issues and have not had any negative press since. To me it honestly seems strange that I am expected to include negative press about my employer, which I personally find biased and skewed, rather than allowing another Wikipedia editor contribute and improve on my submission that just describes the company without any judgement. You guys are holding paid posters to much higher standards than your run of the mill wikipedia editors and essentially promoting non disclosures of COI and undisclosed paid editing. Much of literature and educational text, including actual encyclopedias, are motivated by monetary reasons. Money drives some of the best contributions to the scope information available to humanity and you guys are fools not to use this fact to your advantage on wikipedia. Help paid posters make good articles instead of stonewalling them. Make a rule that requires a specific number of contributions in the field that their company is in before they can post about it if you have to, but please establish clear, easy to follow guidelines for how paid posters can contribute to their company's wikipedia pages. That said if there's no way for me to contribute information about Recovery Centers of America until I have "a few thousand edits" under my belt, then so be it I agree to your demands, despite the fact that "a few thousand edits" seems excessive and reads like "take a hike paid poster."

Yes, we do hold paid editors to higher standards, because the rest of us are volunteer editors, doing this only because we want to help add to this collection of human knowledge. Bringing money into it also brings in neutral point of view questions. You yourself has stated that you would prefer not to add information you deem 'negative' about your employer to its article. Any information, good or bad, can appear in an article as long as it appears in an independent reliable source. You can't keep negative information out. Merely telling about your employer is considered promotional here. We are only interested in what independent sources state about article subjects. If you just want to tell people about your employer from its point of view, or leaving out information not favorable to your employer, you shouldn't do it here, but on social media, your own website, or other forum where doing so is allowed and you can say what you want. Since you indicate, if begrudingly, acceptance to the request(not "demand") that you not edit about your employer until you have more edits under your belt, what subjects do you want to edit about instead? They will need to be unrelated to your conflict of interest(please read WP:COI if you haven't already). 331dot (talk) 14:20, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that other wikipedia editors can add 'negative' information about my employer, I have no problem with that as long as it is factual. I am just not clear why I am personally expected to do it. I was honestly trying to follow wikipedia rules to post an article about my employer that is in accordance with wikipedia standards, but it seems like that is not possible unless you have a long editing history. I want to contribute to articles related to addiction, psychoactive substances, addiction treatment, etc. 404DelendaEst (talk) 15:19, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That's going to be hard, since that is your field(per WP:SIMPLECOI: "Do not edit articles about yourself, your family or friends, your organization, your clients, or your competitors") but you are free to make another unblock request that another heretofore uninvolved administrator will review. If you can convince them to unblock you, I have no objection to it. 331dot (talk) 15:34, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

404DelendaEst (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Please see the above discussion for insight. Thank you. 404DelendaEst (talk) 16:19, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Procedural decline only. This unblock request has been open for more than two weeks but has not proven sufficiently convincing for any reviewing administrator to take action. You are welcome to request a new block review if you substantially reword your request. Yamla (talk) 13:27, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Recovery Centers of America

A tag has been placed on Draft:Recovery Centers of America requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

editing by coi sock

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Speedy deletion of Draft:Recovery Centers of America

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The page Draft:Recovery Centers of America has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seemed to be unambiguous advertising which only promoted a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to have been fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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