User talk:Anomie/Archives/2022

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Re: List of Graduates of the United States Military Academy Class of 1829

Your bot tagged the references to above mentioned article: {{op cit}} I am not using op.cit. without any further qualification; I am always writing it thus: Heitman 1903, op.cit., vol. 1, p. 625. There is no way it can be confused, even of citations are added in between. Pleasse change the parameters of your bot so it doesn't intrude on correct citations. Creuzbourg (talk) 09:49, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

The bot didn't tag that article. I tagged that article with op cit because, as you can see when you follow the links in the template to WP:OPCIT, the use of that arcane terminology is discouraged for multiple reasons. We have better, clearer ways of doing the same thing. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:51, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Creuzbourg: I answered this question at User talk:AnomieBOT/Archive 13#Re: List of Graduates of the United States Military Academy Class of 1829. Please see WP:MULTI. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:02, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Sorry for that. I thought the tag so inane - only noting the op.cit. and not the rest - that I assumed it must have been given by a bot. Creuzbourg (talk) 13:40, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

Bots on Talk Pages

Anomie, I know we are having a content argument on a particular topic. But here I wanted to mention something completely different. You seem to know about Bots. Is Wikipedia doing anything about the Bot pollution issue on talk pages? It’s got ridiculous. Many talk pages have more automated Bot messages that no one reads than they have actual user discussion. Are there others like me who think this is a big problem on WP? Thanks. Frenchmalawi (talk) 01:42, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

I can't say I've heard any other complaints about that particular issue. Anomie⚔ 11:27, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Comment

Hi, I hope you can steer me in the right direction. I'm trying to get a handle on the number of users botching their attempt at a WP:Courtesy vanishing. Many are creating their user pages with a {{db-u1}} template, oftentimes creating what is their only trace of being on Wikipedia, and defeating their own attempt to leave with no trace.

I think that searching for the edit summary "Created page with '{{db-u1}}'" is the simplest way to find them. However even a simple query

SELECT	count(*)
FROM	comment ;

times out (actually, it was stopped after a long while) - Quarry 63499. Is there a better way to find the info? Thanks, Cabayi (talk) 15:37, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, trying to select millions of rows isn't going to work, nor is selecting by the comment text since there's no database index on the column. What you'd probably want to do is calculate the value for comment_hash and select by that. The hash for [[WP:AES|←]]Created page with '{{db-u1}}' is -758013194, for example. But I think even that may not help you much, since there's no index on revision.rev_comment_id or similar columns either. Anomie⚔ 17:26, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Spam Blacklist Phab

Hi Anomie! It's been awhile since we've said "hello" to one another! I hope you're doing well and that you're having a great weekend. :-) I was looking through the spam blacklist extension documentation, and it mentioned T36928. I looked through the phab ticket, and saw that the implementation of the patch is currently stalled because you gave the changes a '-2' a few years back, and due to concerns about some users having the right and others not. Many users have responded since you added the comment stating that the patch doesn't assign the rights to anyone, but simply makes the user right available. It looks like users have added you back as a subscriber to the ticket numerous times attempting to ask you about it, and you subsequently removed yourself without responding. I was just curious as to what was going on exactly. Do you still think that the changes shouldn't move forward, even though others believe that they've addressed your stated issue? Are you not responding on purpose? What's going on? Again, I'm just curious and wanted to ask you about it. :-) Thanks - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:23, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

I literally can't change that -2 now even if I wanted to, thanks to certain terrible WMF managers doing some terrible management and me not having any motivation to find out what hoops they might have wanted jumped through to regain the access I had back in 2012 before I was hired. As for the ticket, I can't say that any of the arguments people have made convince me (the moment the right gets added but not assigned to anyone, people will start requesting it be added on various wikis) but it's not my job anymore anyway. Anomie⚔ 23:31, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

Happy First Edit Day, Anomie, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 13:29, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Deprecated tag fixing

Hey! Do you think you could edit or request an edit to your User talk:Anomie/Archives/2009 page? The page currently uses deprecated source tags. Replacing these tags with <syntaxhighlight> tags will fix any issues with it. The page is fully protected, and I've been advised to inform the archive owner of this instead of requesting an edit myself. Don't worry - the page will have no visible effect, this is just a maintenance thing. Thanks! Aidan9382 _(talk) 16:28, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

 Done Anomie⚔ 16:54, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Up and down

Those arrows are stationary at the bottom of the page. One simply clicks to get to the top and clicks to get the bottom - why did you remove them? Having to scroll that page is a far bigger problem than the feature I added. I've got too many other things to do than spend time scrolling. Please put it back. Atsme 💬 📧 18:19, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Having to scroll the page is a non-issue, IMO, while having large floating boxes obscuring part of the content can easily get annoying. If you're not on a phone you can use the Home and End keys on your keyboard. If you are on mobile, and flick-scrolling doesn't work well enough for you, you'd be better served by a user script that put the arrows on every page. Anomie⚔ 20:39, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

"Huh, weird"

I mean, the bot's edit makes total sense, given that I gave two different keywords in the same sentence. Didn't realise it would check through the whole phrase and not just the first template of a line. The more you know! Primefac (talk) 12:12, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

More specifically, it was complaining because the close was Category:Expired Wikipedia bot requests for approval but {{BotDenied}} was also transcluded in the page. That's not the weird part to me, my "Huh, weird" was about the bot setting the status field to {{BRFA}} to include the "Inconsistent categories/tags!" bit which breaks that template. I just pushed a fix for the bot so it won't do that anymore. Anomie⚔ 12:19, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Sounds good! Primefac (talk) 11:29, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Rescuing orphaned refs is not always a good idea

As of February 15, 2022 all 156 national parks mentioned in "List of national parks of Thailand" have links to DNP webpages and RTGG resources.
So this references in "List of Protected Areas Regional Offices of Thailand" are no longer necessary, can be ommitted.
Rescuing DNP-EBook web pages in this list seems to me unneccessary. SietsL (talk) 13:48, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @SietsL: The bot seems to be rescuing the citations because its still being referenced. If you leave the referencing to them (E.g. <ref name=DNP-EBookN/>) without defining them in any place, it creates an error . If the references arent needed, remove them. Otherwise, dont just leave it as an undefined named reference, or this creates an error. Aidan9382 _(talk) 14:03, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The da Vinci Barnstar
		I very much appreciate AnomieBOT. I just spent some time figuring out what went wrong with a cite orphaned by Refill only to find that AnomieBOT had beaten me to figuring this out and fixing it. I've had similar previous experiences, and have appreciated every one of them. Thanks and Kudos. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 17:26, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! Anomie⚔ 21:40, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Wishing Anomie a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 07:16, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

AnomieBOT

Can you please make bot fixing references avoid returning url's containing email addresses as it violates WP:NOT, but just delete it at whole instead at such cases? Thank you in advance. 85.238.103.38 (talk) 20:49, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Re-running a TFD subst for Template:Hover title

A few days ago, I successfully asked the bot to subst {{Hover title}}. I did not realize that another bot was still adding it to pages. That bot has been updated, so I re-added Hover title to User:AnomieBOT/TFDTemplateSubster. The status shows as "Done", however, so I'm guessing that the bot will ignore my change. I do not have admin access to modify User:AnomieBOT/TFDTemplateSubster/status. Please advise. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:19, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

The status shown on-wiki is just for people to track the bot's progress. As long as a template is listed on the work page, the bot will keep checking for new transclusions to subst. Anomie⚔ 14:48, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Got it. Clever bot. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:22, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Two years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:10, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

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Modification needed for DRVclerk.pm

See User_talk:AnomieBOT#Modification_for_DRVClerk.pm. I must say, this is a very well-organized bot (it was pleasantly easy to figure out where the problem was!) jp×g 06:06, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for AnomieBOT

I hope it's appropriate to say this; I just wanted to acknowledge the number of times I've spotted AnomieBOT clearing up silly things I've done with templates. A thoroughly helpful, professional bot, quietly gnoming away (in the very best sense) in the background making Wikipedia run more smoothly. Thank you! Elemimele (talk) 17:24, 20 December 2022 (UTC)