User talk:Irishanna4921

August 2022

Your account has been indefinitely blocked from editing because of the following problems: the account has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, and your username indicates that the account represents a business, organisation, group, or web site, which is against the username policy.

You may request a change of username and unblock if you intend to make useful contributions instead of promoting your business or organization. To do this, first search Special:CentralAuth for available usernames that comply with the username policy. Once you have found an acceptable username, post the text {{unblock-spamun|Your proposed new username|Your reason here}} at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with your new username and replace the text "Your reason here" with your reasons to be unblocked. In your reasons, you must:

Disclose any compensation you may receive for your contributions in accordance with the Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure requirement.
Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the kind of edits for which you were blocked.
Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.

Appeals: If, after reviewing the guide to appealing blocks, you believe this block was made in error, you may appeal it by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}} at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your reason here" with the reasons you believe the block was an error, and publish the page. Cabayi (talk) 07:27, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi guys! I understand you may see it as it's been written about "myself" when in fact I just have followed Sadiq through his basketball career and took a liking to his approach with basketball and business. I didn't anything to "promote" his business simply said he owns it and added a few things as well as his relationship status with his model and social media girlfriend(Also a fan of his girlfriend) The username was a honest mistake just supported the business model so named it.. have no problem changing it.. of course as his career grows/develops more details slowly emerge but he was an Irish International for basketball.

If you check the draft written it was anything relevant on socials and publications included. As well as that I'd like to fully disclose I'm not working with him have interviewed him twice and haven't gotten paid around this. I joined to add it as my first contribution which would include more people as time goes on

- Anna Baselinekickzz (talk) 08:23, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed username irishanna4921 if that's fine?

Thank you again admin Baselinekickzz (talk) 08:37, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Above box gives exact instructions on appealing the block that was applied because of your User name. David notMD (talk) 09:39, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi David, Thank you for editing and deleting the picture! My editing or creation is disabled until it gets reviewed again Baselinekickzz (talk) 21:45, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without a good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Irishanna4921 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Requested username:

irishanna4921 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Request reason:

Original username was way too similar to what would look like the person is typing 1st perspective about themselves. New username incorporates my Irish routes and first name as well as just random numbers. Originally if I knew I would have strayed away from anything involving the article including name wise or what would be deemed a fan name. Baselinekickzz (talk) 09:53, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Your relationship is clearly closer than you are implying here. You uploaded File:International Irish Team Picture - Daniel.jpg and note that you personally took the photo and personally own the copyright to the photo. This is the same image that Sadiq Daniel uses as his profile picture on twitter. Yamla (talk) 10:09, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The picture isn't mine I understand that but it was on, Twitter which open source? and evidently that's his twitter page too and of course I didn't take the picture either? Baselinekickzz (talk) 10:27, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are deeply confused. Twitter is not open source. Images posted on twitter are not free of copyright. And you claim you did take the picture. You said "Own work" for the source and you said you are "the copyright holder of this work". This is actually worse, you have placed the entire project in jeopardy if you were misleading us there. If you were indeed violating WP:COPYRIGHT, I strongly advise you immediately go and get that image deleted over on Wikimedia Commons. Only after that image is deleted, come back here and make a new unblock request. Given your attempt to mislead us, you'll have to agree not to edit about Daniel any further and you'll have to tell us what you plan to write about instead. --Yamla (talk) 10:30, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, even if twitter was open source (which it isn't), this wouldn't have anything to do with the copyright of the images posted there. The licensing of the source code has nothing to do with the copyright of the hosted content. --Yamla (talk) 10:34, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't take the picture! on my side I understand I said own work but simply for the purpose of the article so I'll accredit it to his twitter page. Thank you Yamla Baselinekickzz (talk) 10:36, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No you won't. Delete the image. You are not permitted to take a copyrighted (and non-freely licensed) image and use it to depict Daniel. Not that this matters, you won't be writing about Daniel any further. --Yamla (talk) 10:37, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ok but It's not like what's written is a lie? Just the picture didn't have the citation however it's on his twitter? Of course I understand completely where you're coming from but the picture is still him. Baselinekickzz (talk) 10:40, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What you wrote is a lie. You claimed you took the picture. That was a lie. You claimed you owned the copyright to the picture. That was a lie. The lack of a citation is not the problem. We cannot use this image to depict Daniel; see WP:COPYRIGHT and WP:FAIRUSE. This will be my last response to you until you have had Wikimedia Commons delete that image as a copyright violation. --Yamla (talk) 10:42, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've nominated the picture for deletion. I do apologize and please understand this is my first article. What I wrote wasn't a lie.. the picture copyrighting again was a mistake however you seen on his account it's him.. Baselinekickzz (talk) 11:12, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I still follow onto Daniel and keep tabs with his socials.. as well his girlfriend. I've done the requirement you've stated not sure if you could possibly approve the picture deletion? this was genuinely to give a scope of him playing for Ireland

Regards Baselinekickzz (talk) 11:31, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Irishanna4921 What you wrote was certainly mistaken. I wish that "own work" would be renamed to say "I took the picture myself". Then, maybe editors wouldn't choose it without careful thought. (As for "simply for the purpose of the article", the "own work" statement applies to the image, not to its intended use. And "you seen on his account it's him" and "the picture is still him" are irrelevant.) Yes, there is a learning curve here. Good luck and keep trying. 71.228.112.175 (talk) 03:11, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh no denying that I made a mistake on that completely. I understand the whole backing of copyright infringement, major learning curve.. Thank you! Irishanna4921 (talk) 10:46, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

as well as this I am being as transparent as possible Baselinekickzz (talk) 11:32, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible to get reviewed around this again and understand it was a genuine mistake? I'm a newbie within the wikipedia editing but have held accountability for wrongdoings and also have put the picture for deletion respectively , thanks again Yamla Baselinekickzz (talk) 19:29, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Anna, I've read your email and renamed your account, so the username issue is dealt with. I share Yamla's concerns about copyright. Wikipedia allows its content to be freely copied and reused. It follows that the content we host MUST also be free of copyright restrictions. I have no problem with an unblock once Yamla is satisfied. Creating an article about a probably non-notable sportsperson while naming your account after his business and claiming ownership of his image triggers all kinds of alarms. Cabayi (talk) 09:41, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cabayi, Appreciate it sincerely on the name change! completely understandable and I agree 100% I was wrong with the picture thinking with twitter it's open source however that was from my lack of knowledge on that, as said before I've nominated it for deletion which it's pending at the moment if I'm mistaken.. I can understand why it triggers alarms too genuinely got ahead of myself and just went with a username not thinking it'd be of a problem again I apologize and that and I didn't realize it'd cause a problem and I've now learned from my mistake.. I guess it's in @Yamla's hands.. for me personally if I make any future edits I'll cross reference if given the chance. Irishanna4921 (talk) 10:03, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Getting unblocked

After the image is deleted at Commons you can again appeal the indefinite block. As part of your appeal, I suggest that you promise to never again edit the Sadiq Daniels draft/article. It is currently a submitted draft that in my experienced opinion will be Declined as not establishing notability of this young person with a modest basketball career and a self-published book. If no edits are made to it, it will be deleted six months from now. I hope you have learned from this messy experience and once your block is reverted, find ways to contribute to Wikipedia. David notMD (talk) 12:53, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have David article was meant to follow in line with him and his partner as they do have a presence in the Irish scene as well as a few more people Irishanna4921 (talk) 13:05, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Again it's my first article that I contributed in Irishanna4921 (talk) 13:06, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also initially I had more to cover regarding career but unfortunately couldn't when the block was placed Irishanna4921 (talk) 13:09, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What with your first choice of User name and claiming the image as own work, you poisoned the well. I doubt that the Admin will unblock you unless you promise to abandon the draft. Even if Irena Drezi was the subject of a Wikipedia article, his relationship with her would not contribute to his notability. Again, Daniels does not meet WP:GNG, not for basketbll, not for book, not for business, not for relationship partner. David notMD (talk) 17:15, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose that's how you see it but I've been following him and he's an Irish athlete that's played at a high level... I've seen articles with a few other sport athletes or entrepreneurs of similar caliber and they're up live. The username of course I understand that messed things up and also the picture so you're right on that account.. He's related to two premier league footballers Dickson and Kelvin Etuhu (Etuhu brothers) and family have a sporting background..

From my scope on things abandoning the article is understandable but a bit unfair considering I created an article that had more to add just didn't realize the name COI and obviously the picture but once addressed quickly rectified it. Wikipedia has amateur-professionals and semi professional athletes so I would argue on just a modest career.. Ireland is small in the sporting world but when people at least compete at FIBA European level that's high. Irishanna4921 (talk) 18:55, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Who he is related to is useless information. The fact that other articles exist means nothing. There are tens of thousands of Wikipedia articles that do not meet current standards, and should be deleted via AfD. If you think you can get an Administrator to unblock your account without a promise to stop editing SD, you are wrong. David notMD (talk) 02:49, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've said I won't edit the article again I personally don't understand the need to come across as patronizing.. I've held accountability for both COI and picture upload.. apart from that I just wanted guidance from senior editors and administrators that's it.. Irishanna4921 (talk) 06:14, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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