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Hi, and thanks for your addition. But where did you get this info? I tried to find it myself but I was unsuccessful. Offliner (talk) 01:06, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It comes from interpretation of a photo of a poster display shown at MAKS 2009, reproduced with translation here: [1] CaptainZond (talk) 19:15, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Good citations on International Space UniversityRyan Vesey (talk) 17:12, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: ReInvention (album) (September 18)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: ReInvention (album) (November 3)

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Your draft article, Draft:ReInvention (album)

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Table of productions for The Wednesday Play and Play for Today

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Thank you for adding the tables of productions to The Wednesday Play and Play for Today (assuming that this was also you) – significant improvements. I have added anchors to both tables, to enable links to be created to individual plays. These are useful:

  1. to enable internal links within the article as I have done here (you may wish to create such links from your DVD lists),
  2. to enable direct links from other articles (eg articles on the participants),
  3. and to create or improve redirect pages like this.


You created sortable tables, which I like, but more work is needed to make the sorting work as readers might expect:

  1. dates currently sort on day of the month, then month alphanumerically (1 Apr, 1 Aug, 1 Dec, 1 Feb, ... 2 Apr) – to make them sort chronologically wrap each date in the dts template, eg {{dts|format=dmy|1-Apr-2020}} which outputs 1 Apr 2020
  2. names of people currently sort alphabetically on first name – to make them sort by surname wrap each name in the sortname template, eg {{sortname|Joe|Bloggs}}
    By default this template will create a link, which is good and repeating links in tables is allowed and helpful to readers who may view rows in any order through sorting or by accessing a row through a link to its anchor.
    You may sometimes need the |dab= or |nolink= third parameter, eg {{sortname|Joe|Bloggs|dab=actor}} or {{sortname|Joe|Bloggs|nolink=y}}
  3. titles will sort OK except those starting “A”, “An” or “The” which can be made to sort conventionally by using the sortname template just on these titles, eg
    • {{sortname|The|End of Arthur's Marriage}}
    • {{sortname|An|Example|dab=stage play}}
    • {{sortname|A|Crack in the Ice|nolink=y}}
    • {{sortname|The|Kiss Of Death|Kiss of Death (1977 film)}}

    The last example above, including the complete link as the third parameter, is occasionally needed, but for [[The After-Dinner Joke|The After Dinner Joke]] I would create a Redirect page for the alternative name, so create a page “The After Dinner Joke” containing
    #REDIRECT [[The After-Dinner Joke]]
    {{R from alternative hyphenation}}

    then just use
    {{sortname|The|After Dinner Joke}}.
  4. for columns where sorting won’t do anything useful, use class="unsortable" in the heading for that column, eg
    ! class="unsortable" | Notes
  5. your season title in the date column will break date sorting of that row, but that could be overcome using {{Hs|}} first. However, I would make the season title it’s own row with colspan across the whole table and a background colour to highlight it. I think they’ll then sort to bottom (but I could be wrong about that).


Yesterday, I added links to the John Le Mesurier article to his Wednesday plays but my edit was reverted by someone who said “The page provides too little information to be of any real use to readers (ie, no plot, background, history, reception, etc).”. I disagree, but as you can see from a draft article I’m creating I add synopsis and a reference to each play. I recently experimented with an alternative format in my sandbox. Feel free to copy anything from these that appeal to you.

I see Philip Cross, who over the years has made constructive improvements to my articles, has edited your tables – so I’m alerting him in case he wants to add to, disagree with, or even implement my suggestions.

Happy editing!

Jim Craigie (talk) 19:56, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Capitalisation of play titles

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I had assumed that your unconventional capitalisation of play titles was following the BBC′s in Radio Times, until I came across this for an article that I’m currently updating
BBC – Radio Times – Play for Today: Just a Boys' Game

When I created the id parameters I copied your capitalisation, but unfortunately anchors are case-sensitive, so when today I expected Play for Today#Just a Boys' Game to work I found it didn’t, because at least in this case your capitalisation isn’t following that in Radio Times. Is there a reason for that?

Jim Craigie (talk) 03:10, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have made no special check of titles but my order of preference would be to refer first to the as-transmitted title caption. If (as was often the case) it was only in upper case then I would refer to the first RT listing. CaptainZond (talk) 20:44, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have now corrected a few titles based on the on-screen captions of productions seen in the 2020 Drama Out Of A Crisis documentary. CaptainZond (talk) 14:42, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Use of Episode table

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Please see discussion Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television#ScreenPlay episode list
Jim Craigie (talk) 16:34, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - indeed, rather than apply retrospectively an artificial, post-hoc template structure & numbering, I'm inclined to try to find the BBC production codes (A,B,C,...AA,BB,CC,...AAA,BBB,CCC,...4A,4B,4C, etc., if it was like Doctor Who) and thus distinguish visually somehow between the 'native' PfT productions and seasons, and presentations of productions 'flown in' from the BBC or elsewhere. CaptainZond (talk) 20:38, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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