User talk:Donnie Park/Archive 4
DYK for List of Dakar Rally fatal accidents
[edit]Wikiproject: Did you know? 11:42, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Honda R800 and R1300
[edit]I reverted your original edit to Template:Honda because you included Mugen Motorsports and Hirotoshi Honda which aren't really related to Honda at all. I also did it because I did do a Google search on Honda R800 and Honda R1300, but didn't find any information on either of these. Can you show me some reliable sources that tell what these two vehicles are? Would love to get rid of the red links and start actual articles for them. roguegeek (talk·cont) 18:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- These two are racecars of the 1960's, I included them because the HSV-010 GT is listed there, which will never be intended for production. As for reliable sources, its not easy unless somebody have a good knowledge in Japanese and have access to magazines there as these cars are not known outside Japan. I provided you photos of the cars as pictures are worth a thousands words. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] Donnie Park (talk) 19:16, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- Yup. Makes sense to me. I've added a race automobiles category on Template:Honda for these type of vehicles. roguegeek (talk·cont) 21:09, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
AfD nomination of List of fictional vehicles
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DYK for Hans G. Lehmann
[edit]Materialscientist (talk) 00:01, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Got a weed-whacker?
[edit]- List of fictional pigs
- List of fictional vampires — omits the non-fictional ones
There are more such lists; it's a wiki.
Cheers, Jack Merridew 19:01, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
WPF1 Newsletter (January)
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DYK for Craig Campbell (BMX rider)
[edit]The DYK project (nominate) 12:00, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
WikiProject Industrial design and Design portal
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Hi Donnie. I just recently saw you were in the project, so I added you to the list of participants (where you can put your initials if you care). Schluum is working on the List of uncategorized articles and Intelligentsium on the Portal. Until we get our first Cleanup listing and clarify the Project tags issue, I think the best you can do now is take a look at the New articles page: you have to check each article in the list and determine if it is really related to Industrial design as a category; if it is, you tag it with the most precise subcategory. By the way, could you please put this tag in your talk page:
{{Wikipedia:WikiProject_Industrial design/Announcements}}
Thanks, --AlainR345Techno-Wiki-Geek 08:34, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
Scope questions
[edit]This text is extracted from here. Please give it a thought as a member of WikiProject ID and put your ideas back there:
The first tagging operation of February 13, 2010 revealed some lingering scope questions that we want to discuss with each member of the project:
- The {{WikiProject_Industrial_design}} tagging gave 530 articles.
- We had previously estimated the number of potential ID articles to be around 1850...
- So the difference is this (those articles that Mr. ZooFari did no do with automated tagging but are part of the Wikipedia Industrial design category hierarchy):
- Category:Automobile designers (455 articles);
- Category:Cycle designers (25 articles);
- Category:Motorcycle designers (25 articles);
- Category:Textile designers (33 articles);
- Category:Computer-aided design (510 articles);
- Category:Furniture (around 1250 articles).
- Note 1: Keep in mind there are overlaps, so numbers do not add up.
- Note 2: I had previously decided to exclude non-furniture categories from the ID project because: by looking at some of the Category:Consumer goods articles, I thought they were not 'a good fit' as a whole, although some of them could be included later on an individual basis. (but that can also be reconsidered by the team)
The question is... What do we do about that?
- We keep that situation 'as is'.
- We ask somebody else to possibly automate all the rest of it.
- We reselect some of those categories for automation (which ones?) and do the rest by hand on an article-by-article basis.
As always each solution has its advantages and inconvenients, both technical and ideological... So, team, what do you think?
--AlainR345Techno-Wiki-Geek 19:53, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
AfD nomination of List of vehicle nameplate sales figures
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Removed PROD on List of sports rivalries
[edit]I have removed the {{prod}} tag from List of sports rivalries, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks!
This may not be the most polished list in WP, but it certainly meets broad WP:LIST and WP:CLN guidelines. The mere fact that it has been around and contributed to consistently since 2005 should give it the benefit of a comprehensive deletion debate if is has to come to that.--Mike Cline (talk) 18:03, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- Actually I am not the nominator, although I did support the PROD although I did my best to add sources to make this list more encyclopaedic. Worth asking you this, do you follow sports, if so, then ever thought how common rivalries are in sports, hence my point, plus are we going to add every rivalries that most of these will fade to insignificance in 5/10 years time. Donnie Park (talk) 18:25, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- Donnie, you make a good point about Rivalry criteria, and that's something that could be improved in this list. Indeed I am a avid Sports fans and understand the conceptual problem that the term Rivalry can cause if it not well defined in the context of this article. You did mis-characterize my statement above in your deletion debate comments. The comment above does not, as you suggest, say that because the article is old it shouldn't be deleted. It says, I think very clearly, that its long term existance and history of many contributors should give it the benefit of an AfD instead of a no-discussion-PROD. The removal of a PROD should not imply that the remover automatically is in favor of keeping the article, merely that the article deserves a broader debate on its further existance--Mike Cline (talk) 20:19, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry that I don't mean to mis-characterize the comments, I initially based it on the recent deletion nomination of another 5 year old article, though it was AfDed rather then merged, as a result, I decided to remove that part in my argument. Donnie Park (talk) 22:03, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- Donnie, you make a good point about Rivalry criteria, and that's something that could be improved in this list. Indeed I am a avid Sports fans and understand the conceptual problem that the term Rivalry can cause if it not well defined in the context of this article. You did mis-characterize my statement above in your deletion debate comments. The comment above does not, as you suggest, say that because the article is old it shouldn't be deleted. It says, I think very clearly, that its long term existance and history of many contributors should give it the benefit of an AfD instead of a no-discussion-PROD. The removal of a PROD should not imply that the remover automatically is in favor of keeping the article, merely that the article deserves a broader debate on its further existance--Mike Cline (talk) 20:19, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- Donnie - take a look at this essay I wrote on creating a better list. Given your ideas about the vagueness of the term Rivalry you can do one thing that will essentially make this list bullet-proof. Rewrite the lead-in in a way that unequivocally establishes what constitutes a rivalry (past, present or future) and source that definition with one or more reliable sources. Once that's done, list notability or indiscriminancy cannot be challenged successfully. All that will remain is some clean-up to ensure entries meets the inclusion criteria you establish in the lead-in. It's not a life-time project--establish bullet-proof inclusion criteria and others will improve the article.--Mike Cline (talk) 23:49, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
WPF1 Newsletter (February)
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Article of the month - Grand Prix 2, current Peer Review
Grand Prix 2, sometimes known as "GP2" and sold in the American market as Grand Prix II, is a racing simulator released by MicroProse in 1996. It was made under an official FIA license that featured the Formula One 1994 season, with all of the circuits, teams, drivers and cars. The cars were painted with liveries reflecting the races that did not allow tobacco and beer sponsors (i.e. 1994 French Grand Prix). It had 3D texture mapping and SVGA graphics, as well as an early but realistic physics engine. A large community of GP2 enthusiasts formed quickly and still exists today. Grand Prix 2 is recognized as one of the definitive racing simulations of its era. (More...) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re proposed deletion of James Major
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WPF1 Newsletter (March)
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Article of the month - 2008 Hungarian Grand Prix, current Featured Article candidate.
![]() The 2008 Hungarian Grand Prix (formally the XXIII ING Magyar Nagydíj) was a Formula One motor race held on August 3, 2008, at Hungaroring in Mogyoród, near Budapest, Hungary. It was the 11th race of the 2008 Formula One season. Contested over 70 laps, the race was won by Heikki Kovalainen for the McLaren team, from a second position start. Timo Glock finished second in a Toyota car, with Kimi Räikkönen third in a Ferrari. It marked Kovalainen's first Formula One victory, which made him the sport's 100th driver to win a World Championship race, and Glock's first podium finish. Much of the race, however, was dominated by a duel between Lewis Hamilton and Felipe Massa, who drove for McLaren and Ferrari respectively. Hamilton started from pole position on the starting grid but was beaten at the first corner by Massa, who passed him around the outside. The two championship protagonists commenced a battle for the lead that was resolved when Hamilton suffered a puncture just over half-way through the race, giving Massa a comfortable lead. The Ferrari's engine, however, failed with three laps of the race remaining, allowing Kovalainen to take the win. (More...) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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WPF1 Newsletter (April)
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Article of the month – Ayrton Senna, current B-Class article.
![]() Ayrton Senna da Silva, (pronounced [aˈiɾtõ ˈsenɐ da ˈsiwvɐ] ; São Paulo, March 21, 1960, – Bologna Italy May 1, 1994) was a Brazilian racing driver and three-time Formula One world champion. He was killed in a crash while leading the 1994 San Marino Grand Prix, and remains the most recent Grand Prix driver to die at the wheel of a Formula One car. Senna began his motorsport career in karting and moved up the ranks to win the British Formula 3 championship in 1983. Making his Formula One debut with Toleman in 1984, he moved to Lotus-Renault the following year, and won six Grands Prix over the next three seasons. In 1988 he joined Frenchman Alain Prost at McLaren-Honda. Between them, Senna and Prost won fifteen out of the sixteen Grands Prix which took place that season, with Senna winning his first World Championship, a title he would go on to win again in 1990 and 1991. McLaren's performance declined in 1992, as the Williams-Renault combination began to dominate the sport, although Senna won five races to finish as runner-up in 1993. He moved to Williams in 1994, but suffered a fatal accident at the third race of the season at the Autodromo Enzo e Dino Ferrari in Italy. Senna is regarded as one of the greatest drivers in the history of Formula One. In 2009, a poll of 217 current and former Formula One drivers chose Senna as their greatest Formula One driver, in a survey conducted by British magazine Autosport. He was recognised for his qualifying speed over one lap and from 1989 until 2006 held the record for most pole positions. He was among the most talented drivers in extremely rain-affected conditions, as shown by his performances in the 1984 Monaco Grand Prix, the 1985 Portuguese Grand Prix, and the 1993 European Grand Prix. He also holds the record for most victories at the prestigious Monaco Grand Prix (6) and is the third most successful driver of all time in terms of race wins. However, Senna courted controversy throughout his career, particularly during his turbulent rivalry with Alain Prost, which was marked by two championship-deciding collisions at the 1989 and 1990 Japanese Grands Prix. (More...) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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WPF1 Newsletter (May)
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Article of the month – Bruce McLaren, current Start-Class article.
![]() Bruce Leslie McLaren (30 August 1937 – 2 June 1970), born in Auckland, New Zealand, was a race-car designer, driver, engineer and inventor. His name lives on in the McLaren team which has been one of the most successful in Formula One championship history, with McLaren cars and drivers winning a total of 20 world championships. McLaren cars totally dominated CanAm sports car racing with 56 wins, a considerable number of them with him behind the wheel, between 1967 and 1972 (and five constructors’ championships), and have won three Indianapolis 500 races, as well as 24 Hours of Le Mans and 12 Hours of Sebring. As a nine year old, McLaren contracted Perthes disease in his hip which left his left leg shorter than the right. He spent two years in traction, but later often had a slight limp. Les and Ruth McLaren, his parents, owned a service station and workshop in Remuera, Auckland. Bruce spent all of his free hours hanging around the workshop. The McLaren family homestead is located in Ngaruawahia in the Northern Waikato region and still stands today. (More...) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
See 2010 Formula One season for more information
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