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October 2024

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Cullen328 (talk) 20:42, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. We are biased.

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Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia, once wrote:[1][2][3][4]

Wikipedia's policies ... are exactly spot-on and correct. If you can get your work published in respectable scientific journals – that is to say, if you can produce evidence through replicable scientific experiments, then Wikipedia will cover it appropriately.

What we won't do is pretend that the work of lunatic charlatans is the equivalent of "true scientific discourse". It isn't.

So yes, we are biased.

And we are not going to change. tgeorgescu (talk) 21:23, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, you really cover the gamut there! Thanks for revealing the massive chip on your shoulder. I wish you the best in your "fight" and the bias you've taken on from Jimmy Wales. Must be a heavy load to walk with. EDA2Z (talk) 23:09, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You've again mistaken Wikipedia for a democratic society where social freedom, personal expression and the liberty thereof are values placed above all other. In such a society McCarthyism is a malignant prejudice designed to silence opinions and constrain political thought. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. A book. An online repository. The people who are making it are doing a job. They're working and they are adhering to a basic set of management principles. If this were a company, like the marketing department of coco cola for example, it would be perfectly reasonable for the company to have principles, which say, "no - we don't want that". And to enforce them if employees persistently acted in contrary. For some reason, because a group of editors have objected to your contributions and you have found no support, you accuse the project of being Machiavellian, whereas the reality is that your content has been looked at (ad nauseam) and has been rejected. You are required to disclose COI here. Just like you are required to sign NDAs or exclusivity contracts if you work for coco cola. In fact the only real difference between this organization and a company is that we don't fire or sue people when they come into the office and spend all day bending the ear of everyone they meet, telling colleagues what a bunch of pigs we and the company are for not seeing eye to eye with them. In a nutshell - its OK for Wikipedia to have policies, its OK for Wikipedians to decide they don't like certain content and its OK to exclude that content from our pages. Edaham (talk) 04:05, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Quoted by tgeorgescu (talk) 00:37, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See also:
  • Steinsson, Sverrir (2024). "Rule Ambiguity, Institutional Clashes, and Population Loss: How Wikipedia Became the Last Good Place on the Internet". American Political Science Review. 118 (1). Cambridge University Press: 235–251. doi:10.1017/S0003055423000138. ISSN 0003-0554.
  • Nogueira, Clarissa; ShahBano Ijaz, Syeda (29 May 2023). "How Conflicts and Population Loss Led to the Rise of English Wikipedia's Credibility -". PoliticalScienceNow.com -. Retrieved 24 May 2024.
Strongly protesting and using sarcasm cannot change basic policies and guidelines. So, if you seek to edit Wikipedia, you should first seek to understand how Wikipedia actually works, not how you'd wish that it would work. tgeorgescu (talk) 03:04, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Farley, Tim (25 March 2014). "Wikipedia founder responds to pro-alt-med petition; skeptics cheer". Skeptical Software Tools. Archived from the original on 19 October 2021. Retrieved 4 November 2021.
  2. ^ Hay Newman, Lily (27 March 2014). "Jimmy Wales Gets Real, and Sassy, About Wikipedia's Holistic Healing Coverage". Slate. Archived from the original on 28 March 2014. Retrieved 4 November 2021.
  3. ^ Gorski, David (24 March 2014). "An excellent response to complaints about medical topics on Wikipedia". ScienceBlogs. Archived from the original on 19 October 2021. Retrieved 4 November 2021.
  4. ^ Novella, Steven (25 March 2014). "Standards of Evidence – Wikipedia Edition". NeuroLogica Blog. Archived from the original on 20 October 2021. Retrieved 4 November 2021.
  5. ^ Talk:Astrology/Archive 13#Bias against astrology
  6. ^ Talk:Alchemy/Archive 2#naturalistic bias in article
  7. ^ Talk:Numerology/Archive 1#There's more work to be done
  8. ^ Talk:Homeopathy/Archive 60#Wikipedia Bias
  9. ^ Talk:Acupuncture/Archive 13#Strong Bias towards Skeptic Researchers
  10. ^ Talk:Energy (esotericism)/Archive 1#Bias
  11. ^ Talk:Conspiracy theory/Archive 12#Sequence of sections and bias
  12. ^ Talk:Vaccine hesitancy/Archive 5#Clearly a bias attack article
  13. ^ Talk:Magnet therapy/Archive 1#Contradiction and bias
  14. ^ Talk:Crop circle/Archive 9#Bower and Chorley Bias Destroyed by Mathematician
  15. ^ Talk:Laundry ball/Archives/2017
  16. ^ Talk:Facilitated communication/Archive 1#Comments to the version by DavidWBrooks
  17. ^ Talk:Ayurveda/Archive 15#Suggestion to Shed Biases
  18. ^ Talk:Torsion field (pseudoscience)/Archive 1#stop f**** supressing science with your bias bull****
  19. ^ Talk:Young Earth creationism/Archive 3#Biased Article (part 2)
  20. ^ Talk:Holocaust denial/Archive 12#Blatant bias on this page
  21. ^ Talk:Flat Earth/Archive 7#Disinformation, the EARTH IS FLAT and this can be SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN. This article is not about Flat Earth, it promotes a round earth.
  22. ^ Talk:Scientific racism/Archive 1#THIS is propaganda
  23. ^ Talk:Climate change conspiracy theory/Archive 3#Problems with the article
  24. ^ Talk:Santa Claus/Archive 11#About Santa Claus
  25. ^ Talk:Flood geology/Archive 4#Obvious bias
  26. ^ Talk:Quackery/Archive 1#POV #2
  27. ^ Talk:Ancient astronauts/Archive 4#Pseudoscience
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