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May 2023
[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, articles should not be moved without good reason. They should have a name that is both accurate and intuitive. Wikipedia has some guidelines in place to help with this. Generally, a page should only be moved to a new title if the current name doesn't follow these guidelines. Also, if a page move is being discussed, consensus needs to be reached before anybody moves the page. If you would like to experiment with page titles and moving, please use the test Wikipedia. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Please do not move pages to the help namespace when they are established articles. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 17:38, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, will you move the article for me please? Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 17:40, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- I've attempted to move it back to it's original state (I couldn't fully do it as I don't have the user rights to delete redirects) as I can't find a discussion relating to the moving of it, if you could link me to one, I will get it moved in a short while. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 17:54, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Help talk:William Haughey, Baron Haughey to William Haughey, Baron Haughey Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 18:00, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- That isn't a discussion, that is a request from you which hasn't been discussed, you can open a discussion at requested moves. Thanks, Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 18:04, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- I don't know how you do it. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 18:05, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Go to Wikipedia:Requested moves#Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. If you need further assistance just ask. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 22:03, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- I don't know how you do it. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 18:05, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- That isn't a discussion, that is a request from you which hasn't been discussed, you can open a discussion at requested moves. Thanks, Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 18:04, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Help talk:William Haughey, Baron Haughey to William Haughey, Baron Haughey Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 18:00, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- I've attempted to move it back to it's original state (I couldn't fully do it as I don't have the user rights to delete redirects) as I can't find a discussion relating to the moving of it, if you could link me to one, I will get it moved in a short while. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 17:54, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of List of peers retired under the House of Lords Reform Act 2014 (2021–present)
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Capital letters
[edit]Please stop capitalising director general of the BBC. You should read MOS:JOB and realising you are doing this incorrectly. - SchroCat (talk) 09:40, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
- I second that wise request. Whatever our personal preferences, we all need to abide by the rules of any organisation we join, and Wikipedia's manual of style is crystal clear: we don't capitalise job titles like this. And, a word to the wise: don't keep reverting changes you don't like: repeated reversion will get you banned from editing. Tim riley talk 13:46, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
Ex officio members
[edit]Earl Marshal
[edit]The Earl Marshal is an hereditary post held by the Duke of Norfolk.
# | Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords |
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Miles Fitzalan-Howard, 17th Duke of Norfolk | 31 January 1975 | 24 June 2002 |
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Edward Fitzalan-Howard, 18th Duke of Norfolk | 24 June 2002 | present |
Lord Great Chamberlain
[edit]The Lord Great Chamberlain is a Hereditary office in gross post between Cholmondeley Ancaster and Carrington familes.
In 1902 it was ruled by the House of Lords that the then joint office holders (the 1st Earl of Ancaster, the 4th Marquess of Cholmondeley, and the Earl Carrington, later Marquess of Lincolnshire) had to agree on a deputy to exercise the office, subject to the approval of the Sovereign. Should there be no such agreement, the Sovereign should appoint a deputy until an agreement be reached.[1]
In 1912 an agreement was reached. The office, or right to appoint the person to exercise the office, would thereafter rotate among the three joint office holders and their heirs after them, changing at the start of each successive reign. Cholmondeley and his heirs would serve in every other reign; Ancaster and Carrington would each serve once in four reigns.[2]
# | Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords |
Tenure | |
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David Cholmondeley, 7th Marquess of Cholmondeley | 13 March 1990 | 8 September 2022 |
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Rupert Carington, 7th Baron Carrington | 8 September 2022 | present |
Elected by the whole House
[edit]Sitting
[edit]Deceased
[edit]# | Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords |
First sat | Elected | Replacing | Died | ||
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George Makgill, 13th Viscount of Oxfuird | Conservative | 1986 | 1999 | – | 3 January 2003 | |
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Morys Bruce, 4th Baron Aberdare | Conservative | 1957 | 1999 | – | 23 January 2005 | |
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David Kenworthy, 11th Baron Strabolgi | Labour | 1953 | 1999 | – | 24 December 2010 | |
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Geoffrey Russell, 4th Baron Ampthill | Crossbencher | 1973 | 1999 | – | 23 April 2011 | |
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Hugh Mackay, 14th Lord Reay | Conservative | 1963 | 1999 | – | 10 May 2013 | |
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Robert Methuen, 7th Baron Methuen | Liberal Democrats | 1994 | 1999 | – | 9 July 2014 | |
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Charles Lyell, 3rd Baron Lyell | Conservative | 1960 | 1999 | – | 11 January 2017 | |
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Roger Bootle-Wilbraham, 7th Baron Skelmersdale | Conservative | 1973 | 1999 | – | 31 October 2018 | |
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Jan David Simon, 3rd Viscount Simon | Labour | 1993 | 1999 | – | 15 August 2021 | |
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Michael Brougham, 5th Baron Brougham and Vaux | Conservative | 1968 | 1999 | – | 27 August 2023 |
Resigned
[edit]Pursuant to section 1 of House of Lords Reform Act 2014
# | Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords |
First sat | Elected | Replacing | Resigned | Died | |||
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Margaret of Mar, 31st Countess of Mar | Crossbencher | 1975 | 1999 | – | 1 May 2020 | |||
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Rodney Elton, 2nd Baron Elton | Conservative | 1973 | 1999 | – | 29 October 2020 | 19 August 2023 | ||
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Nicholas Lowther, 2nd Viscount Ullswater (left the house in 1999) |
Conservative | 1966 | 2003 | George Makgill, 13th Viscount of Oxfuird | 20 July 2022 | |||
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Anthony Hamilton-Smith, 3rd Baron Colwyn | Conservative | 1966 | 1999 | – | 21 July 2022 | |||
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Lucius Cary, 15th Viscount Falkland Elected as Liberal Democrat; joined Crossbenchers in 2011[4] |
Crossbencher | 1984 | 1999 | – | 21 March 2023 |
Elected by the Conservative hereditary peers
[edit]Sitting Conservative peers
[edit]Deceased Conservative peers
[edit]# | Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords |
Imperial peerage[a] | First sat | Elected | Replacing | Died |
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Nicholas Vivian, 6th Baron Vivian | 1991 | 1999 | – | 28 February 2004 | |
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Hugh Lawson, 6th Baron Burnham | 1993 | 1999 | – | 1 January 2005 | |
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Charles Stourton, 26th Baron Mowbray | 1965 | 1999 | – | 12 December 2006 | |
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David Carnegie, 14th Earl of Northesk | 1994 | 1999 | – | 28 March 2010 | |
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Michael Onslow, 7th Earl of Onslow | 1971 | 1999 | – | 14 May 2011 | |
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Robert Shirley, 13th Earl Ferrers | 1954 | 1999 | – | 13 November 2012 | |
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Edward Douglas-Scott-Montagu, 3rd Baron Montagu of Beaulieu | 1947 | 1999 | – | 31 August 2015 | |
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Roger Swinfen Eady, 3rd Baron Swinfen | 1977 | 1999 | – | 5 June 2022 | |
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David Douglas-Home, 15th Earl of Home | ![]() |
1995 | 1999 | – | 22 August 2022 |
Resigned Conservative peers
[edit]Pursuant to section 1 of House of Lords Reform Act 2014
# | Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords |
First sat | Elected | Replacing | Resigned | Died |
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Arthur Lawson Johnston, 3rd Baron Luke | 1996 | 1999 | – | 24 June 2015 | 2 October 2015 |
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Robin Dixon, 3rd Baron Glentoran | 1995 | 1999 | – | 1 June 2018 | |
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John Palmer, 4th Earl of Selborne Left party to become non-affiliated in 2019[11] |
1971 | 1999 | – | 26 March 2020 | 12 February 2021 |
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Bertram Bowyer, 2nd Baron Denham | 1949 | 1999 | – | 26 April 2021 | 1 December 2021 |
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Matthew White Ridley, 5th Viscount Ridley | 2013 | 6 February 2013 | Robert Shirley, 13th Earl Ferrers | 17 December 2021 | |
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Robin Cayzer, 3rd Baron Rotherwick | 1996 | 1999 | – | 1 February 2022 | |
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Ivon Moore-Brabazon, 3rd Baron Brabazon of Tara | 1976 | 1999 | – | 28 April 2022 | |
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John Astor, 3rd Baron Astor of Hever | 1984 | 1999 | – | 22 July 2022 |
Removed Conservative peers
[edit]Pursuant to section 2 of House of Lords Reform Act 2014
# | Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords |
First sat | Elected | Replacing | Removed | Died |
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Malcolm Mitchell-Thomson, 3rd Baron Selsdon | 1963 | 1999 | – | 11 May 2021 |
Elected by the Crossbencher hereditary peers
[edit]Sitting Crossbench peers
[edit]Deceased Crossbench peers
[edit]# | Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords |
First sat | Elected | Replacing | Died |
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Ziki Robertson, 11th Baroness Wharton | 1990 | 1999 | – | 15 May 2000 |
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Henry Herbert, 7th Earl of Carnarvon | 1987 | 1999 | – | 10 September 2001 |
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Cherry Drummond, 16th Baroness Strange | 1986 | 1999 | – | 11 March 2005 |
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Davina Ingrams, 18th Baroness Darcy de Knayth (Entered the house under the Peerage Act 1963) |
1963 | 1999 | – | 24 February 2008 |
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Christopher Bathurst, 3rd Viscount Bledisloe | 1979 | 1999 | – | 12 May 2009 |
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Mark Colville, 4th Viscount Colville of Culross | 1954 | 1999 | – | 8 April 2010 |
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John Monson, 11th Baron Monson | 1958 | 1999 | – | 12 February 2011 |
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John Wilson, 2nd Baron Moran | 1977 | 1999 | – | 14 February 2014 |
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Michael Allenby, 3rd Viscount Allenby | 1984 | 1999 | – | 3 October 2014 |
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John Slim, 2nd Viscount Slim | 1970 | 1999 | – | 12 January 2019 |
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Adrian Palmer, 4th Baron Palmer | 1990 | 1999 | – | 10 July 2023 |
Resigned Crossbench peers
[edit]Pursuant to section 1 of House of Lords Reform Act 2014
Removed Crossbench peers
[edit]Pursuant to section 2 of House of Lords Reform Act 2014
# | Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords |
First sat | Elected | Replacing | Removed | Died |
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Thomas Bridges, 2nd Baron Bridges | 1969 | 1999 | – | 18 May 2016 | 27 May 2017 |
Elected by the Labour hereditary peers
[edit]Sitting Labour peers
[edit]# | Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords |
First sat | Elected | Replacing |
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John Suenson-Taylor, 3rd Baron Grantchester (left the house in 1999) |
1995 | 4 November 2003 | Michael Milner, 2nd Baron Milner of Leeds |
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Stephen Benn, 3rd Viscount Stansgate | 2021 | 10 July 2021 | Nicolas Rea, 3rd Baron Rea |
Deceased Labour peers
[edit]# | Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords |
First sat | Elected | Replacing | Died |
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Michael Milner, 2nd Baron Milner of Leeds | 1967 | 1999 | – | 20 August 2003 |
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Nicolas Rea, 3rd Baron Rea | 1982 | 1999 | – | 1 June 2020 |
Elected by the Liberal Democrats hereditary peers
[edit]Sitting Liberal Democrats peers
[edit]# | Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords |
Imperial peerage[a] | First sat | Elected | Replacing |
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Dominic Hubbard, 6th Baron Addington | 1982 | 1999 | – | |
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Patrick Boyle, 10th Earl of Glasgow (left the house in 1999) |
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1984 | 25 January 2005 | Conrad Russell, 5th Earl Russell |
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John Archibald Sinclair, 3rd Viscount Thurso (left the house in 1999) |
1995 | 19 April 2016 | Eric Lubbock, 4th Baron Avebury |
Deceased Liberal Democrats peers
[edit]# | Hereditary peer and title used in the Lords |
First sat | Elected | Replacing | Died |
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Conrad Russell, 5th Earl Russell | 1987 | 1999 | – | 14 October 2004 |
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Eric Lubbock, 4th Baron Avebury | 1971 | 1999 | – | 14 February 2016 |
Links
[edit]There is no need to change links as you did for example here. In fact the practice is discouraged. See WP:NOTBROKEN. DuncanHill (talk) 23:00, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
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- ^ "Office Of Lord Great Chamberlain". Parliamentary Debates (Hansard). House of Lords. May 6, 1902. Archived 2021-01-28 at the Wayback Machine
- ^ Great Officers of State: The Lord Great Chamberlain and The Earl Marshal Archived 6 January 2014 at the Wayback Machine. The Royal Family. debretts.com Archived 2019-08-24 at the Wayback Machine. Debrett's Limited. Accessed 17 September 2013.
- ^ "House of Lords, Official Website - Eal of Oxford and Asquith". Retrieved 9 September 2019.
- ^ "House of Lords, Official Website - Viscount Falkland". Retrieved 5 April 2012.
- ^ "Peerage Act 1963". www.parliament.uk.
- ^ "Earl Peel". UK Parliament. Retrieved 6 August 2018.
- ^ "UKIP members in the House of Lords". ukipderbyshire.co.uk. Archived from the original on 2012-03-21. Retrieved 2011-03-25.
- ^ "Lord Willoughby de Broke". UK Parliament. Retrieved 6 December 2018.
- ^ "Lord Inglewood". UK Parliament. Retrieved 6 December 2018.
- ^ "Duke of Wellington". UK Parliament. Retrieved 9 September 2019.
- ^ "Earl of Selborne". UK Parliament. Retrieved 9 September 2019.
- ^ a b c d e Peers in the Peerage of Scotland and Peerage of Ireland did not have an automatic seat in the House of Lords following the Acts of Union of 1707 and 1800, Some peerages of Great Britain and the United Kingdom were created to get around this obstacle and allow certain Scottish and Irish peers to enjoy the automatic right to sit in the House of Lords. The Peerage Act 1963 gave Scottish Peers an automatic right to sit in the Lords, even if they held an Imperial Peerage.[5]
Piped links
[edit]Hi,
I've just reverted your edit at "Dave Lee Travis". The Manual of Style recommends against using a "piped" link where a redirect will do. Please see MOS:NOPIPE, WP:NOPIPE and WP:NOTBROKEN.
Best wishes, Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 23:24, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello again,
Could you slow down and discuss this?
Best wishes, Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 20:08, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Ok I will have a break. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 21:12, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. I'd really like to understand what it is you're trying to do. Adding a "pipe" to pages that already have a link to (for example) "Marine Broadcasting Offences Act" doesn't change the displayed text or the target page, but complicates the source code. Changing the text to "Marine, &c., Broadcasting (Offences) Act 1967" may be technically more correct, but it's cumbersome to read, which is presumably why the shorter form is generally used. What I'd really like to avoid is a situation where I end up chasing you around reverting your edits. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 21:29, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Marine Broadcasting Offences Act 1967 will have this from now on. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 17:17, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- Whoah! Slow down! If that's the preferred form that's arrived at by consensus, the best thing to do would be to either move the page that's currently at "Marine, &c., Broadcasting (Offences) Act 1967" to "Marine Broadcasting Offences Act 1967" and update the links as required, or create a redirect from "Marine Broadcasting Offences Act 1967" to "Marine, &c., Broadcasting (Offences) Act 1967". But you're making these changes - that affect many pages - unilaterally, without discussion. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 17:26, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- Hang on it will have this format Marine, &c., Broadcasting (Offences) Act 1967|Marine Broadcasting Offences Act 1967 with [[]]. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 17:27, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- You can use <nowiki></nowiki> and <code></code> tags to show code. So you're saying that you've decided that the standard form will be "
[[Marine, &c., Broadcasting (Offences) Act 1967|Marine Broadcasting Offences Act 1967]]
". If that's the consensus position, the right thing to do would be what I suggested above - either move the page or create a redirect. But you haven't sought consensus for these changes that affect many pages. Let's talk about the best way to proceed. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 17:34, 9 November 2023 (UTC)- That is the format which is on each article. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 17:38, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- That's the format that you've decided to impose on every article! It's not just there - you put it there! I don't think it's the right format, for the reasons I explained above. We should either move the page, or make a new redirect. So please stop forcing this change through, and discuss it with me, as I asked you to ten days ago. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 17:41, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- OK, each article should have Marine Broadcasting Offences Act 1967 where as some have Marine Broadcasting Offences Act or Marine (Offences) Act, it looks standard across the board as Marine Broadcasting Offences Act 1967. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 17:52, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- No, it does not have to be exactly the same in each article. Edits like this are at best a waste of time. DuncanHill (talk) 17:54, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- I understand the urge to have a consistent format, and I also think it's a good idea to use a simplified, readable form for the displayed text, rather than using the full title "Marine, &c., Broadcasting (Offences) Act 1967" every time the act is mentioned. For the reasons explained at MOS:NOPIPE and WP:NOPIPE, creating "piped" links as you've been doing isn't the best way to do this. I'd like to ask for broader input as this affects so many pages. Could you suggest the best way to go about it, DuncanHill? Would an RfC be a good idea? I'm not experienced in these matters. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 18:04, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- There is no need for an RfC or anything else, just for Earl of Sutton Coldfield to stop it! DuncanHill (talk) 18:05, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- I have stopped now. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 18:21, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. But really you should have stopped to discuss this ten days ago when I asked you to. You've taken a lot of time and effort to make a lot of changes that in general are not helpful, and that could have been avoided with a little discussion.
- I agree with DuncanHill that there's no need to have complete uniformity in the title of the act. The full, correct title is cumbersome to use, and in many cases the context will make the "1967" date unnecessary. But the current variety of titles in use isn't ideal either. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 18:32, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- For example, if you look at the changes you made at "Dave Lee Travis", you've added "1967" to the displayed text, but the sentence begins, "In 1967 ...", so repeating the date is unnecessary. You've also added the "piped" link to "Marine, &c., Broadcasting (Offences) Act 1967" which isn't displayed, and serves no purpose, since the original link redirected to the same page.
- Why not create a redirect from "Marine Broadcasting Offences Act 1967" to "Marine, &c., Broadcasting (Offences) Act 1967" and use that as the short form when the date isn't clear from context? Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 18:51, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- I have stopped now. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 18:21, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- There is no need for an RfC or anything else, just for Earl of Sutton Coldfield to stop it! DuncanHill (talk) 18:05, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- OK, each article should have Marine Broadcasting Offences Act 1967 where as some have Marine Broadcasting Offences Act or Marine (Offences) Act, it looks standard across the board as Marine Broadcasting Offences Act 1967. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 17:52, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- That's the format that you've decided to impose on every article! It's not just there - you put it there! I don't think it's the right format, for the reasons I explained above. We should either move the page, or make a new redirect. So please stop forcing this change through, and discuss it with me, as I asked you to ten days ago. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 17:41, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- That is the format which is on each article. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 17:38, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- You can use <nowiki></nowiki> and <code></code> tags to show code. So you're saying that you've decided that the standard form will be "
- Hang on it will have this format Marine, &c., Broadcasting (Offences) Act 1967|Marine Broadcasting Offences Act 1967 with [[]]. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 17:27, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- Whoah! Slow down! If that's the preferred form that's arrived at by consensus, the best thing to do would be to either move the page that's currently at "Marine, &c., Broadcasting (Offences) Act 1967" to "Marine Broadcasting Offences Act 1967" and update the links as required, or create a redirect from "Marine Broadcasting Offences Act 1967" to "Marine, &c., Broadcasting (Offences) Act 1967". But you're making these changes - that affect many pages - unilaterally, without discussion. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 17:26, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Marine Broadcasting Offences Act 1967 will have this from now on. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 17:17, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. I'd really like to understand what it is you're trying to do. Adding a "pipe" to pages that already have a link to (for example) "Marine Broadcasting Offences Act" doesn't change the displayed text or the target page, but complicates the source code. Changing the text to "Marine, &c., Broadcasting (Offences) Act 1967" may be technically more correct, but it's cumbersome to read, which is presumably why the shorter form is generally used. What I'd really like to avoid is a situation where I end up chasing you around reverting your edits. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 21:29, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
Allied Commission
[edit]Bulgaria
[edit]No. | Portrait | Chairman of the Commission | Took office | Left office | Time in office | Defence branch |
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1 | Marshal of the Soviet Union Fyodor Tolbukhin (1894–1949) | 28 September 1944 | 15 September 1947 | 2 years, 11 months | ![]() |
Finland
[edit]No. | Portrait | Chairman of the Commission | Took office | Left office | Time in office |
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1 | Andrei Zhdanov (1896–1948) | 22 September 1944 | 15 September 1947 | 2 years, 11 months |
Hungary
[edit]No. | Portrait | Chairman of the Commission | Took office | Left office | Time in office | Defence branch |
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1 | Marshal of the Soviet Union Kliment Voroshilov (1881–1969) | 20 January 1945 | 15 September 1947 | 2 years, 7 months | ![]() |
Italy
[edit]No. | Portrait | Chairman of the Commission | Took office | Left office | Time in office | Defence branch |
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1 | Marshal of the Soviet Union Kliment Voroshilov (1881–1969) | 20 January 1945 | 15 September 1947 | 2 years, 7 months | ![]() |
Romania
[edit]No. | Portrait | Chairman of the Commission | Took office | Left office | Time in office | Defence branch |
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1 | Marshal of the Soviet Union Rodion Malinovsky (1898–1967) | 12 September 1944 | 15 September 1947 | 3 years | ![]() |
Jan Smuts medals
[edit]South Africa
- Dekoratie voor Trouwe Dienst
- Efficiency Decoration
- Medalje voor de Anglo-Boere Oorlog
- Union of South Africa Commemoration Medal File:Union of South Africa Commemoration Medal (ribbon).png after the Coronation Medals
From Wikimedia Commons, the free media United Kingdom
- 1939–1945 Star File:Ribbon - 1939-45 Star.png
- Africa Star File:Ribbon - Africa Star.png
- Italy Star File:Ribbon - Italy Star.png
- France and Germany Star File:Ribbon - France and Germany Star.png
- Defence Medal File:Ribbon - Defence Medal.png
- War Medal 1939–1945 File:Ribbon - War Medal.png
- Africa Service Medal File:Ribbon - Africa Service Medal.png
Decorations (Shown in order in which appointments were made, not order of precedence)
Country | Date | Appointment | Ribbon | Post-nominal letters |
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1 January 1947 | Order of Merit | ![]() |
OM |
4 June 1917 | Order of the Companions of Honour | ![]() |
CH | |
1914–15 Star | ![]() |
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26 July 1919 | British War Medal | ![]() |
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1919 | Victory Medal | ![]() |
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1945 | 1939–45 Star | ![]() |
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1945 | Atlantic Star | ![]() |
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1945 | Africa Star | ![]() |
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1945 | Burma Star | ![]() |
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1945 | Italy Star | ![]() |
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1945 | Defence Medal | ![]() |
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1945 | War Medal 1939–1945 | ![]() |
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Naval General Service Medal | ![]() |
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6 May 1935 | King George V Silver Jubilee Medal | ![]() |
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12 May 1937 | King George VI Coronation Medal | ![]() |
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2 June 1953 | Queen Elizabeth II Coronation Medal | ![]() |
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6 February 1977 | Queen Elizabeth II Silver Jubilee Medal | ![]() |
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Australia trophies
[edit]Trophies | Country | First Contested | Holder | Last won |
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Bledisloe Cup | ![]() |
2 July 1932 | ![]() |
3 August 2002 |
Trophée des Bicentenaires | ![]() |
4 November 1989 | ![]() |
17 July 2021 |
Ella-Mobbs Trophy | ![]() |
23 July 1997 | ![]() |
17 November 2012 |
Hopetoun Cup | ![]() |
13 June 1998 | ![]() |
29 October 2022 |
Lansdowne Cup | ![]() |
12 June 1999 | ![]() |
16 November 2013 |
Mandela Challenge Plate | ![]() |
8 July 2000 | ![]() |
3 September 2022 |
Puma Trophy | ![]() |
17 June 2000 | ![]() |
13 August 2022 |
Tom Richards Cup | ![]() |
30 June 2001 | ![]() |
14 July 2001 |
James Bevan Trophy | ![]() |
26 May 2007 | ![]() |
26 November 2022 |
Ofcom
[edit] Channel Year
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British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) |
Independent Television (ITV) |
Sianel Pedwar Cymru (S4C) |
Channel 4 | Channel 5 | ILR | Cable | Satellite | VOD | Engineering | Complaints | Taste and Decency | Telephones | Post |
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1 December 1984 | Cable Authority | |||||||||||||
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1 January 1991 | ITC | ITC | Radio Authority | ITC | NTL | |||||||||
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Blocked as a sockpuppet
[edit]![Stop icon](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/42/Stop_x_nuvola.svg/40px-Stop_x_nuvola.svg.png)
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
. DatGuyTalkContribs 11:23, 21 December 2023 (UTC)![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Appointment_red.svg/48px-Appointment_red.svg.png)
Earl of Sutton Coldfield (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I am not Mr Hall of England, I may copy the edits but I am not the same person, also if we can have a Zoom meeting I am willing to do that.Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 13:03, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
Decline reason:
You need to address the concerns raised at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mr Hall of England. And no, no zoom meetings. There's no possibility that would clear you. Yamla (talk) 13:16, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
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Earl of Sutton Coldfield (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I maintain I am not this editor, I have copied the idea from this person but I am not this person, I thought giving the peers this is a good idea, I didn't know about those editors, genuinely Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 17:02, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
Decline reason:
If you copied the idea from a blocked user, that was a poor decision. That's called meat puppetry. 331dot (talk) 18:13, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
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Stop
[edit]You have access to this talk page solely so you can contest your block. --Yamla (talk) 13:42, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- OK, but I am editing a draft on my Talkpage, but I am not this sock puppet, I may do the same edits but name me an editor who does similar edits. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 14:02, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- No. You have access to this talk page solely to contest your block. Do not do anything else here. --Yamla (talk) 15:44, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
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