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Navigational stars

Ooops, I just saw the notice that you will be going out to sea tomorrow and will be gone for 99 days. Good luck on your voyage! In light of that I am sure this is now somewhat less important, but I just finished adding the "Meaning of name" column as you had suggested in Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Navigational stars and was wondering:

if you still plan to upload the 2 star charts before you depart (or if you would want me to scan and upload them)
if there are any more changes you think we should make to Navigational stars or whether you'd consider casing a Support vote on Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Navigational stars if there are none

Thanks, and good luck again! May you encounter fair weather and calm seas. Alexander Falk (talk) 15:54, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Alexander. I think I'll be able to upload the SVG version of the northern stars this afternoon— at this point, I'm just double checking everything. I was thinking about encouraging you to get a copy of ~~GIMP~~ Inkscape to complete the southern stars. As far as changing from comments to support— I'd like to, but since I have some "skin in the game," I have to be particularly careful about conflict of interest in this case. If I can see my way clear to a solid support, I'll do so.

Cheers. Haus^Talk 16:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, I can do the southern stars. I've just downloaded and installed Inkscape. Question on the process: did you scan the page from Bowditch, or did you take it from the [version]? Also, did you try to automatically generate the vectorized charts, or did you manually draw over the scanned version and only used that as a guide? I just want to make sure that I use the same approach, so that the output looks comparable. Alexander Falk (talk) 16:19, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Basically #2: selected the image in acrobat, copied it to the clipboard, saved it to a file, and brought the file into inkscape using "File->Import". I'm pretty sure you'll be able to use the grid, legend, icons and so forth from the northern stars as a big start on the southern stars. More in a bit. Haus^Talk 16:32, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

OK -- a copy of the diagram should be floating above and to the right. Have fun with it, and I should be in and out until about midnight your time. Haus^Talk 17:16, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Operation COOKIE MONSTER

Merge proposal of Floating storage and offloading unit and Floating Production Storage and Offloading

Hi. I proposed to merge Floating storage and offloading unit and Floating Production Storage and Offloading articles. Your comments are appreciated.Beagel (talk) 14:51, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Floating Pneumatic Fender - Yokohama Fenders

What do you know about fenders? It seems there is no article on them? Thank you for your time. Manic mechanic (talk) 13:33, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Yokohama is a genericized trademark (like Kleenex or Coke) referring specifically to big fenders made by the Yokohama Rubber Company and generically to others that look like them. I added a picture to the right. The terminology "Floating Pneumatic" isn't familiar to me, but it seems to indicate that they're full of air and float, which are familiar traits... Cheers. Haus^Talk 08:52, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Manic mechanic (talk) 21:44, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Unfree labor / Slavery

I watched with curiosity the anonymous edit and then your revision of Shanghaiing. While I agree "slavery" may be misleading, he has a point. Or does he? I was surprised you didn't explain your revision. Care to? Cbaer (talk) 00:34, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Sure... "Unfree labour is a generic or collective term for those work relations, especially in modern or early modern history, in which people are employed against their will by the threat of destitution, detention, violence (including death)..." which is to say that it's not a euphemism, as the other editor claimed, but rather a technical term.... Cheers. Haus^Talk 01:07, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough! Thanks! Cbaer (talk) 09:33, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

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Propeller developed area

I have an article, SS Mauna Loa at FAC now (link) and a question came up that I thought you might be able to answer. In the article I quoted a source that gave a figure for the developed area of the ship's propeller, and a reviewer at FAC wondered what "developed area" means. I think from Googling that it's the actual surface area of the propeller (as opposed to the projected area). Do you know if that's correct? Propeller kind of hints at, but doesn't explain, what developed area means. Do you think this is a term that should have its own article, or is there another place I might link the term to? Many thanks in advance. — Bellhalla (talk) 22:58, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

No problem - propellers are a terminological minefield: using common sense to deduce what something means usually leads to tears. That said, you did guess right: developed area A_d is "defined as the area of all blades together." The reference is pages 174-175,179 of Eliasson, Rolf E.; Larsson, Lars Hannes (2000). Principles of Yacht Design. Camden, Maine: International Marine. ISBN 0-07-135393-3.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link) Cheers. Haus^Talk 23:43, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank a bunch! I've added a note to the article and used the reference you provided. — Bellhalla (talk) 12:21, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Spreading the love

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For taking the time to give me a barnstar when you didn't have to. Thanks! Parsecboy (talk) 05:08, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

MT Stolt Valor

		WikiProject Ships Barnstar
		Haus, Thanks for not just answering my question at the WT:SHIP#MT Stolt Valor, but for giving me a useful explanation regarding ship prefixes. Cheers, matey! Rosiestep (talk) 21:25, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Maraming salamat! :) Haus^Talk 22:47, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

...er, which is to say "Thanks much!" For some reason I thought I remembered that you spoke Tagalog. :) Haus^Talk 22:53, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

AWB

Hey, just a heads-up, this is an inappropriate use of AWB according to WP:AWB#Rules of use and the edit summary is misleading. If you want to fix typos using AWB you should consider implementing WP:TSN. Thanks. --Closedmouth (talk) 07:26, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Warship template replacements

Hello. Saw that you were helping replace {{warship}} with {{ship}} via AWB. Thanks! Unfortunately "blind" replacements like this are only going to make more work for us in the long run, as the link in question should be moved to {{HMCS}} instead of {{ship}}. Thanks, --Kralizec! (talk) 02:17, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate your point, and pondered it for a while before moving ahead. I think there's an intermediate step needed in that progression: namely, rewriting {{HMCS}} to call {{ship}}. The reasoning is to ensure that there aren't any strange, hard to notice differences in the parameter uses. After that's done, we can get a list of all the pages that have {{ship|HMCS... by having ship include a null template if parameter1 is HMCS. The advantage of this approach is that it will pick up all occurences of {{ship|HMCS. Of course, the same sort of approach can be used with other special cases... (added : c.f. Help:Template#Monitoring_parameter_usage)

So, in a nutshell, it is, as you say, more work. However, hopefully you'll agree that there's method to my madness. Cheers. Haus^Talk 02:30, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

But why make more work for ourselves in the future, when we can fix it now (and only have to touch the article once)? --Kralizec! (talk) 02:39, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure we're on the same page... Do you have an alternative plan that picks up all cases where {{ship|HMCS... are converted to {{HMCS|...? I agree that it will cause another 50-ish pages to be touched twice rather than once. On the other hand, I'm not in a position tonight to rewrite {{HMCS}} with {{ship}} as a backend, which is (more or less) a necessary intermediate step before safely replacing ship with HMCS... Cheers. Haus^Talk 02:55, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Looks like Bellhalla (talk · contribs) took care of the template re-write [1]. Thanks, Kralizec! (talk) 15:35, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

(outdent) Ok, so to generate the list of pages that use {{ship|HMCS|...., we'd simply have to change the line

-->]]</includeonly><noinclude>

to read

-->]]{{#ifeq:{{{1}}}|HMCS|{{voidd|{{WP Ships hmcs fixes}}}}}}</includeonly><noinclude>

and then build a list off of Links to hmcs fixes. Haus^Talk 17:01, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Looking for old infoboxes

Howdy - I want to use AWB to find ship articles that are not using the new infobox. This should be easy by using AWB to find ships articles that don't include {{Infobox Ship but my dilemma is how to mark the talk page with the {{newinfobox|type=ship}} template after finding the appropriate article. This is probably a simple thing to do but I'm not seeing how to execute this in the AWB interface. --Brad (talk) 00:54, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy to help. Try this:

Make your list of ship articles
Move your mouse into the box where the articles are listed
Right-click and choose "Sort alphabetically"
Right-click and choose "Remove->non-mainspace"
Right-click and choose "Remove->duplicates"
Right-click and choose "Convert to talk pages"

You can use the "Tools->List comparer" then to make a list of pages that don't have {{newinfobox. If there are a ton of pages, we could come up with a search/replace to actually put the {{newinfobox on the page. This page would be a good spot to start building your list. Lemme know if you have any problems. Cheers. Haus^Talk 01:05, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm.. let me be more specific. I want to find articles that are not using {|{{Infobox Ship Begin}} and do not have the {{newinfobox|type=ship}} on the talk page. I'm thinking that AWB will scan articles and alert to any article that does not contain {|{{Infobox Ship Begin}} on its main page. Then gathering a list of those pages without the correct infobox, I will then scan the talk pages to make sure that {{newinfobox|type=ship}} is in place. Hope that makes more sense. --Brad (talk) 02:18, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

OK, there's an easy way and a hard way. The easy way is to go to the "Make list" box, choose the "Make from" option "Links from Page" and set the page to User:Haus/cong.

Here's a walkthrough of the hard way: first open list comparer. In list1, put "What Transcludes Page" and "Template:WikiProject Ships". Right-click and choose "Convert from talk pages". In list2, put "What Transcludes Page" and "Template:Infobox Ship Begin". Hit compare. The items in "Unique in List 1" will be all ships articles that don't have infoboxes. Click save list, and name it L1.

Click "Clear all" and then "Remove all" in List1 and List2. In list1, chose make from "Text File" and choose the file L1 you just made. Right-click and pick "Convert to talk pages". In list2 put "What Transcludes Page" and "Template:Newinfobox". Click compare. Now the items in "Unique in list 1" will be ship articles that don't have "Template:Infobox Ship Begin" and their talk pages don't have "Template:Newinfobox". Save this list as L2. Close List comparer. In the "Make list" box, go to the "Make from" selector and choose "Text file". Click "Make list" and choose the new L2 text file. Right-click and choose "Convert from talk pages". Now right-click and "Remove non main-space".

Does that work? Cheers Haus^Talk 03:02, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Update: I noticed that about 3,000 of those articles had the {{shipindex}} template and that those articles shouldn't have infoboxes. I removed those and updated the list at User:Haus/cong. It now has about 5,800 links. Cheers. Haus^Talk 03:20, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Errr yeah. That should keep me busy for a few days. I'll start on it soon; thanks. --Brad (talk) 06:35, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Captain

You've done a great job with the Captain disambiguation project; thanks very much! I hate to quibble after you've made such a big contribution. However, just a minor suggestion -- if a link needs to be disambiguated and is marked by {{dn}}, you shouldn't change the link to Captain (disambiguation). That should only be used for links that are intended (permanently) to link to the disambiguation page; examples being other uses links and links about word usage. Anyway, as I said, this is a minor point and thanks again for taking the laboring oar (so to speak) on this task. --Russ (talk) 14:48, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

That's a good point, and I think you're right. My intent was to put links that can't reasonably be dabbed into a special bucket. For example, "Sven was born to Captain Rolf and Gretta Jones" with no citation, external link, or further discussion. You'd certainly want to add the {{dn}} to draw attention to the fact that it needs dabbed. I guess the point of changing the link to [[Captain (disambiguation)|] was to then "get it off the to-do list." Hmm, now I'm scratching my head — what do you do in this situation? Cheers. Haus^Talk 16:09, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

If the link needs to be disambiguated, but the information needed to do it isn't available, then I would just leave it as an {{dn}} in hopes that another editor who has access to secondary sources will fix it. And I consider it off my "to-do" list in that case. --Russ (talk) 03:02, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Boxing the compass question

As a mariner, and all around smart guy, I thought you could answer a question about a compass direction for me. I have a source that says a ship was torpedoed "140 miles N.W. ½ W. of Tory Island". What does the "N.W. ½ W." translate to? Is it west-northwest? Thanks in advance. — Bellhalla (talk) 20:51, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

It's not a shorthand form currently common in the U.S. merchant fleet or Navy. That said, I'd guess that it's the same as NWxW which is "northwest by west" (start at NW which is 315 and go one point to the west) or 303.75°. West-northwest is another point to the west, or 292.5°. I have a couple of references from the 19th century and/or U.K. and will look to see if they use this form. Cheers. Haus^Talk 21:19, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, consulting the internet and my books didn't tell me anything other than the fact that the "1/2" notation was in fact used. It seems likely to me that it's a British-style notation, so I forwarded the question to User:Shem1805. I think if we end up getting an answer it will be from someone who reads a lot of old RN/MN material. Cheers. Haus^Talk 23:11, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

I took a look through Google books and found the answer in a 1918 textbook. To get the angle, take northwest (315°T) then go 1/2 a point (5.625°) to the west to give 309.375°T. Here's the reference, and thanks for the stimulating question! Haus^Talk 18:01, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

I wish I'd checked my messages a little earlier; I could have saved you the effort. Haus is absolutely right - and it's pronounced "Northwest by a half West". It's pretty archaic, but then I'm getting that way myself. I don't imagine anybody has used such a phrase in earnest at sea for thirty years or more. See Boxing the compass for a more general description. If you're thinking of changing the text, I would bear in mind that the original may well have been a magnetic bearing, and that over-accuracy would not be appropriate. Yours, Shem (talk) 23:04, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the input Shem! Knowing the pronunciation will allow me to insert this little gem into the midnight trivia game and hopefully stump the skipper. At the very least, I'm sure he'll have to scratch his head and grimace a little. Cheers. Haus^Talk 14:22, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you for the bit of trivial knowledge. :) I left the direction out of SM U-70 and just said that the ship was torpedoed 140 miles from Tory Island. — Bellhalla (talk) 20:10, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Opinion needed

Hi Haus, we're kicking around ideas on how to list entries on the List of maritime disasters page and we need some spanking new opinions. If your interested please pop in on the talk page. Thanks! Shinerunner (talk) 12:43, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Hahaha!

Best thing I've seen all day. Thank you! —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 17:47, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

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Realms of Despair's 15th Anniversary Reunion

Hi Haus :)

As I mentioned to you last year, this year will be the 15th anniversary of the Realms of Despair, and thus we will be having a very special reunion. I'm hoping that you will be able to attend (it will be the August long weekend -- first weekend of August). I'd also like to be able to interview you if possible. Thanks :) --Thoric (talk) 23:19, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey dude. I sent you an email via wikipedia in response, but in short - I'll be there and would be happy to do an interview. In the meantime, could you hook me up with a L50 named Haus to help me reconnect with some of the old crew? Having think might be conducive, but may be more trouble than it's worth. I'll leave the heavy thinking up to you and the big kids. Cheers. Haus^Talk 23:48, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

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Sailing master and Captain (nautical)

Hi - I'm going to add some information about the term Sailing master and master's mates back to this article in a subsection Sailing master. I noticed it was deleted by you, but Sailing master redirects to this article and it makes sense to me that it be in this article. I appreciate your comments. Thanks! Kirk (talk) 15:30, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Template:Ships of Sealift Incorporated

Did you know that the entry for SS Wilson leads to an article for a science fiction author S. S. Wilson? Looks like a dab page is needed. I'd create it myself but I don't know the year of launch for SS Wilson. Mjroots (talk) 06:26, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! I put a stub in at SS Wilson (1968). Haus^Talk 21:15, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK for MV Montauk

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Congrats on the DYK and nice job on this well-written article! Kudos to you, sir, for your hard work! — Kralizec! (talk) 19:20, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Sink date for Rewa

Can you double-check the date that the Rewa was sunk? While checking your DYK hook, I got the impression from two sources that the date was Jan 4 1918. Otherwise, the hook looks fine. Cheers. Haus^Talk 21:34, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

You're right. Adjusted the date in the article. -- Esemono (talk) 01:46, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK

Hey, I noticed you filled prep area 1 thanks for doing so. However, as is a common mistake using hooks that were recently nominated is not encouraged, as there are hundreds of older hooks in the "Older Nominations" section. For more rules/suggestions on how to fill the prep areas see this. Thanks and I hope you continue helping out at DYK!--Giants27 (c|s) 00:17, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

This note left me kind of scratching my head, since I worked my may up from the bottom, picking articles that were ticked, only skipping ones that would throw off balance (i.e. too much U.S. stuff) or were being heatedly debated (i.e. Benson the Carp). Maybe we're talking about the top item, where I picked what I thought was the most interesting photo on the suggestions page? Anyway, thanks for the feedback, and if you see anything specific that seems iffy, please don't hesitate to let me know. Cheers. Haus^Talk 16:28, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Ahh, your right I understood the picture selection but I thought I saw one of the other ones in the set towards the top recently but looking again all were towards the bottom excluding the picture one. Cheers,--Giants27 (c|s) 16:49, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Need help at TDYK

Can you help me with this? Thank you Skäpperöd (talk) 16:30, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

OK, I tthink it's good to go. Cheers. Haus^Talk 16:45, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Skäpperöd (talk) 16:59, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Irish Mercantile Marine during World War II

Nearly there - any suggestions? - ClemMcGann (talk) 01:45, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey Clem. I'll be glad to take a whirl at it in the morning. Cheers. Haus^Talk 08:55, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

ta very - it was a matter of knowing when to stop - ClemMcGann (talk) 11:28, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

O.K., I gave her some tweaks. Its an informative and clear article. If you intended to garden it up to good article status, I'd have some suggestions. First off, the lead section still doesn't quite comply with the best practices. There's some cleanup on the references that could be done, for example turning [http://whatever.com] into {{Cite web...}. The last big thing that caught my eye is the "Events" section. Ideally, this should be prose, maybe with an abbreviated overview on the side like the one in Éamon de Valera. A ton of work, I know, but it's a target to shoot for. That said, maybe we could get a disinterested party (one that doesn't bleed Guiness) to give her a peek - it's in the vicinity of being a B-class article. Cheers. Haus^Talk 04:25, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your thoughts and edits. I'm fixing the cites. I take your point about the "events", but am uncertain of a solution. Perhaps they should be in a separate "timeline" article? They painted the tricolor on their sides and deck (as can be seen in the pictures) - for now I'll restore that even though the lead might not be the best location. Actually (this is just a curiosity) one sailed one voyage not under the tricolor, but under the fenian flag (gold harp in green field)! it was a Panamanian purchased in the US - Local dignitaries were assembled to see her off and presented the flag, the Irish captain realized the error, rather than embarrass his hosts the flag was raised and so she sailed. I'll do some thinking and tweaking. Thanks - ClemMcGann (talk) 16:28, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Gray made a point of *not* being an ambassador but a minister, he regarded Ireland to be a British dominion rather than an independent country

thanks for your assistance ClemMcGann (talk) 01:17, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Glad to pitch in, it's an interesting article! FWIW, to American eyes "American minister" reads as "American parson" which is why I diddled with that bit. Perhaps a couple of words of context could make it clearer?

Observing the effort you're putting into the article, I keep thinking about how it would do as a good article candidate. As it stands, it would get shot down for some layout issues, the big list, a few places where citations are needed and some citation formatting. Personally, I find the process pretty annoying, but the outcome rewarding. If you're interested in going down this path, let me know, and I can help get it ready. Cheers. Haus^Talk 01:40, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Advice appreciated. Gray had a longer minister-extraordinary-type title - I will look it up. If the big list is a problem, let's move it to a separate timeline article. (if in doubt - cut it out) Although I don't want that list lost. I'm addressing the cite formatting - and the timeline formatting. Where do you reckon that more cites are required? - add some ^{[citation needed]} tags - I probably have the books - thanks - ClemMcGann (talk) 08:50, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

I will be away for a few days. I have been rechecking the refs. What more is required? If the 'events' are a problem, then I'm inclined to delete. thanks and regards - ClemMcGann (talk) 02:18, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

My sympathy on your illness - go to bed and stay in bed and don't get up till someday ClemMcGann (talk) 14:10, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I was in Glencolmcille which is remote. On a narrow road which leads nowhere I called on Kenneth King. Just wanted to be sure that it was OK to use his paintings (I have the museum's, which owns them, permission). He was glad to see me. He is an 80yo Royal Navy chaplin. [2] ClemMcGann (talk) 14:28, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Hope you feel better soon. I'm off to Spain for a fortnight. So if you have any more suggestions for Irish Mercantile Marine during World War II I would be glad to view them on my return. Get well soon ClemMcGann (talk) 18:12, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Wishing you a calm sea, a fair wind and a star to steer by ClemMcGann (talk) 01:53, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

welcome back [3] ClemMcGann (talk) 16:55, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

You like to copyedit huh?

Two other articles I've been working on Chesapeake and Congress have made GA but neither has had a good copy edit so far. In the case of Congress, there was so little information available the article is shorter than short. So if you get bored one day and would like to look them over I would appreciate it. Those will be proceeding to an A-class nom in the near future. --Brad (talk) 18:35, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I want to write an article about "the making of a super motor yacht" and do not have a clue on where to begain.. It seems to me you havent spent much time on wikipedia lately.. so i may have to try and do the research myself. My email address is pradalvr@gmail.com if you happen to see this and want to help me--99.48.231.141 (talk) 07:51, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

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RAF deaths

Do we really need to feed political trolls? If you really think those deaths are a matter of serious debate, I wont re-vert you. But the shape of the earth is also still disputed (Hohlweltlehre).--Radh (talk) 12:34, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't have the faintest idea what this is about. Haus^Talk 18:57, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Irish Mercantile Marine during World War II

Thanks for your advice on the article Irish Mercantile Marine during World War II and related issues. As a small token of thanks, do accept free admission to the National Maritime Museum of Ireland valid until the end of 2011. ClemMcGann (talk) 17:11, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

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Tank ship

Dear Haus,

there is a little debate (Talk:Tank_ship#Requested_move), triggered I guess by a link appearing on the front page, on the Tank ship page - about renaming it Tanker (ship). A move which seems sensible to me. Do you have a view? Best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 16:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC))

Code Help

Hi Haus, Thanks for the help already received. I used the code to create the current incarnation of {{P&O ships}}. However this is coming out to be quite heavy on user input. I've been trying to play around and get it so that instead of having to specify which sections to hide, so that it's which sections to display. However my limited knowledge is failing again as I want to get it to default to all hidden if a parameter is used, but if no parameters are used then it defaults to display the whole lot. Would be grateful if you could help out. I have a test page setup on Sandbox and Test - JonEastham (talk) 11:50, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I'll start playing with this as soon as the morning coffee kicks in. Haus^Talk 16:56, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Ok, give it a close look - I think that did it. Cheers. Haus^Talk 17:16, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

MV_Maersk_Alabama Reference Deletion

In the article on [[MV_Maersk_Alabama] you deleted a reference using WP:ELNO as justification. Quoting from WP:ELNO:"The subject of this guideline is external links that are not citations to sources supporting article content." I sincerely hope all the other deletions you have made regarding this site are actually external links and not citations or references. Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 19:38, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Citations are required to comply with WP:RS, and in this case guidelines on self-published sources, from which "...personal websites, open wikis, blogs, personal pages on social networking sites, Internet forum postings, or tweets—are largely not acceptable... 'Blogs' in this context refers to personal and group blogs." Haus^Talk 19:52, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

GA Articles

I responded to your request on the NPOV talk page for controversial GA and above articles. I'll repeat it here just in case you aren't watching the page.

I guess it depends on how controversial you want. Islam, Atheism, Evolution, Objections to evolution, Holocaust denial, Conservapedia and Global warming come to mind.

Good luck. Jess ^talk _cs 23:10, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

(Responding both places) Thanks for the tips, Jess, I'll definitely look at these articles for ideas. It might be useful to mention articles like this on the NPOV page as guidance for editors. Cheers. Haus^Talk 00:10, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

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Re your post at WT:SHIPS

I'm not sure what you are proposing here, please clarify. Mjroots (talk) 09:02, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

I think it got hashed out: using # and * lists in infobox fields. My first pass apparently wasn't clear: html-wise <br> doesn't make a list, it makes a linebreak. After wikistuff happens # is converted to <olist><li>...</olist> and * is converted to <list><li>...</list>, which is what I was talking about in (a). Anyway, looks like it is clearer now. Haus^Talk 09:49, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Pride of Rotterdam

I've expanded the article now, let me know if you think it is ready to go live and I'll do the necessary. Mjroots (talk) 10:16, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Looks dandy to me, good work! Tangential question: I see you used vesseltracker.com, and I've been pondering whether it is a WP:RS for a good article candidate. I've tried to convince myself that it is and failed. Do you have any feelings on the subject? Thanks. Haus^Talk 10:20, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

P.S. I just glanced at WP:WIADYK and I think the new article qualifies as a dyk. Haus^Talk 10:29, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Vesseltracker is as reliable as any of the other sources available for the limited info it carries for unregistered viewers (IMO, MMSI, Callsign, flag. Measurements tend to be rounded). I can't speak for the rest of the info as I'm not registered and don't intend to. Fakta om Fartyg should be a first port of call, but that site doesn't list call signs. Re DYK, it will qualify as a new article once the copyvio has been deleted - the same happened with Charles Fryatt. Were you thinking on the lines of the new terminal having to be constructed to accommodate the ships? Mjroots (talk) 11:10, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

New MS Pride of Rotterdam article now live. Mjroots (talk) 11:20, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Looks good. Regarding DYK, yes, I think the new terminal is the most interesting fact. Haus^Talk 12:40, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Template:Ref simbad

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As you are a new editor, you may be well served by reviewing Wikipedia:Don't_template_the_regulars. Haus^Talk 01:40, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the pointer. I read what I left you now, and it does seem awful, I do apologize. Even with my limited experience I might have found such text somewhat rude if it was left at my door. That's what I get for using TW without bothering to look carefully at what it left behind, which is bad practice anyway. Oddly, I templated at least 20 regulars the last month and none of them bothered to tell me what I do might be considered rude. I'm happy you did. --Muhandes (talk) 06:01, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

No harm done, and good catch on the template: {{cite simbad}} worked out better. Cheers. Haus^Talk 06:34, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Blackpool shipwrecks

I'd prefer to keep this article (and other similar articles) at the current title. It is not presented in a list format but in prose. Mjroots (talk) 09:43, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't have strong feelings on the matter, but having 16 one- and two-sentence sections does make it remarkable amongst our start-class articles. Cheers. Haus^Talk 09:50, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

I thought it should be a list article as well. It certainly "looks" like a list! Brad (talk) 17:27, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

B-class checklists.

Thanks for helping eliminate the huge backlog. I was working on them until I became nauseated and had to break. One thing I discovered while going through the list is that some articles needed demotion to stub while others weren't in the ships scope. I noticed you caught a couple non-scope articles which is good. The backlog was at one time just under 9,000 articles. Brad (talk) 17:32, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

My pleasure - I'm twiddling my thumbs waiting on a GA review. I think out of the 1,000 or so I've done in the past few days, most stayed at start, maybe 20-30% were promotions to C-Class, maybe 1% promoted to B-class, and 1 was a GA that fell through the cracks. I haven't caught any stubs yet, but as you can probably see, I punted on Blackpool shipwrecks and Ferries in Washington State. Cheers. Haus^Talk 18:08, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Ferries in Washington State failed 4 out of 5 criteria so it can stay at start class. I'm not sure about the blackpool article. Maybe it could pass to a C but all of those sections might be a reason to fail criteria 3. Another issue I ran into doing checklists were articles that had been redirected leaving the banner behind on an orphaned talk page. In those cases you can either remove the banner or change it to |class=redirect. Brad (talk) 19:56, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Regarding your assessments according to you the Leander class cruiser (1882) article has been checked against the following criteria for B-Class status. (Checklist commented out by H) I think you are in error. I think it meets criterion 2, but does not meet criterion 5.--Toddy1 (talk) 14:48, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. I changed it accordingly. Cheers. Haus^Talk 15:07, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

I've been working ahead of you through the list; finding a lot of non-scope articles that really belong to sailing: {{WikiProject Sailing|class=|importance=}}. A year ago or more I got carried away with AWB and tagged a lot of these. Some ships project conversation was any civilian ship under 100' that sails should go to that project. America's cup boats etc. Brad (talk) 16:50, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Good thinking. When I hit one with scope issues, it's like hitting a speed-bump. Keeping the two processes separate is a good idea: for example, I see I kept loblolly boy. Haus^Talk 16:57, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, I can't match your speed though :). I believe that I've looked through M's and am continuing on but I'm on my way out for the day. If you're not sure about an article then I guess you could skip over it and I'll find it later. Brad (talk) 17:08, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

An issue I've discovered; not sure how this is happening. These two talk pages are tagged but there is no corresponding main article:

The other day I found three others like this and marked them for speedy delete {{db-talk}}. When you figure out what is going on can you mark those two for speedy delete?

Back to the subject of scope.. I attempted some time ago to gather a more solid scope from project ships members but there was so little response that nothing was was solved. I've basically been winging it since then. I've looked for non-scope articles through the letter P now. Will be doing more in the next hour or so. Brad (talk) 15:35, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

I spent last night fixing some problems in my method that can occur with special characters. That should be all fixed now, and I'll start evaluating again in earnest in the morning. On scope - I think we just wing it for the time being and wait for a better year to gain consensus on anything. Cheers. Haus^Talk 16:54, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

I've gone through the entirety of the list now. I completely skipped the U's because most of them will be USS xxx, ships certainly within scope. I removed something like 75-100 articles as non-scope. Brad (talk) 17:34, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Upper case

Out of place—yes, I know. It's standard to use the upper case: I've been corrected before on this matter. I guess in the context it distinguishes the term from the generic. Tony (talk) 12:28, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Mystery solved! Thanks for the help. Haus^Talk 12:42, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

3rr

why are you being such an ass? did you even bother to check the abs cite? --emerson7 16:43, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

1) Review WP:NPA. 2) Actually, I wrote it. 3) Review Wikipedia:CITE#Inline_citations. Thanks. Haus^Talk 16:48, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

then perhaps you need to review. all edits i made are iaw wp guidelines. --emerson7 16:55, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

I've reopened the topic for further discussion at WT:SHIPS. Haus^Talk 16:56, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

very well...--emerson7 17:06, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Recent review of Lifeboat

Hi

I noticed you just completed a review of Lifeboat (rescue).

Can you possibly put on the article talk page a list of points that you think needed addressing which caused it to fail to reach a B class.

thanks Chaosdruid (talk) 15:19, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Sure, I'll take another look at it now. Haus^Talk 15:36, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

I posted some suggestions on your talkpage. Good luck! Haus^Talk 16:58, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Hokulea Talk page

Hello, some recent changes you made to the Hokulea talk page have resulted in the page becoming illegible (see diff). Scroll down to see the vessel name, "Hokulea." Would you kindly repair this please? –Newportm (talk • contribs) 02:33, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

All done. Mahalo! Haus^Talk 02:41, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Why did you remove the {{Ship infobox request}} tag? Viriditas (talk) 03:08, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

The |needs-infobox=yes makes it redundant. With both, two banners requesting an infobox would be present. Cheers. Haus^Talk 03:51, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing up my confusion. Viriditas (talk) 06:14, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Talk:SS Daniel J. Morrell

There seems to be a problem here. Your recent edit summary said "B class" but for whatever reason its showing as "C class." I tried to correct it, but was unsuccessful. Thanks for taking the time. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 18:12, 19 July 2010 (UTC) Stan

Hi, and thanks for your input. It makes it clear to me that I should tweak the edit summary that I've been using. I'm assessing the articles against the B-class checklist. In my opinion, SS Daniel J. Morrell doesn't meet the B1 and B2 criteria, but does qualify as a C-class article, meeting the B3, B4, and B5 criteria. Maybe changing my edit summary to "Assessing B-class checklist for WP:SHIPS" would be less confusing? Haus^Talk 10:32, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Haus, I don't know anything about the checklist. That's above my pay grade, so to speak. I was confused by the apparent discontinuity between the edit summary (happy) and the actual rating (disappointed). However, I am not questioning either of those, but merely wanted to give you -- the author -- a heads-up. Of course, part of this is a result of the reader's ignorance of the assessment process of ships' articles. Fortunately (or not) there aren't going to be many who would notice this historical anomaly. Happy editing and keep up the good work. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 11:41, 20 July 2010 (UTC) Stan

Talk:Nordhavn

After reading the previous Talk point (above) I think I also understand what you are saying about Nordhavn. But your edit comment do leave a different impression.DavidPickett (talk) 17:56, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for you input. I've changed my default edit summary for these assessments to "assessing B-class checklist for WP:SHIPS" which will hopefully decrease the likelihood of this kind of misunderstanding. Cheers. Haus^Talk 10:50, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Creed of the United States Coast Guardsman

Thanks for responding to my SOS, Shipmate. I usually get a response from Pesco if I need a little help on something. I hadn't considered some of the things you suggested and I will probably put it on a user page and work on it awhile. References will be a little tough, but I'm determined and retired for the most part, so I have the time. I have met some really nice people on here that want to help, you included. I'm still somewhat of an beginner in many areas and I am greatful to have someone sign off on my "watchstander quals" as I learn the task at hand. Cheers Cuprum17 (talk) 21:58, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

"flag of convenience"

i hope this better ~~suites~~ suits you...if not, i would ask that you take it to the talk page based on 3rr. cheers. --emerson7 02:21, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

"Suites"? Haus^Talk 03:27, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

c'mon, guy...i don't intend to be, or even like being adversarial...i really wish we could work together without being mean. --emerson7 03:47, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm fine with the idea of moving the title closer to the beginning of the sentence. However, I'm not fine with the idea of butchering the definition in order to do so. For reference, here's the diff. Now, let's look at your current sentence:

A flag of convenience is a flag
- No it isn't: it is a business practice, not a piece of cloth. You can't go to the bridge and pick up the "flag of convenience." You can pick up the civil ensign, however.
flown by a merchant ship
- As a concept, rather than a physical object, it can't be flown. The "is said to be" in the original sentence is there because it's a rather fanciful expression.
if it is from
- "From" is particularly vague here. Does it mean "built in?" Does it mean "owned by nationals of?" Does it mean it just sailed from there? The original version lacked this imprecision.
a registering country
- "Registering country" is certainly not a term I've ever run into. On the other hand, the construct of a ship being "registered in a country" is widely used by the IMO, etc, etc, etc...
other than that of its owners, "for..."
- What is the grammatical purpose of the comma? It isn't separating clauses. It isn't separating parenthetical information. There isn't a list anywhere in sight.

If you feel that we could develop a better first sentence, I'm willing to continue discussing it. However, I feel that in the meantime, the article should be reverted. Haus^Talk 05:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Cargo control room

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Irish Mercantile Marine during World War II

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Flag of convenience

My apologies, but I'm having to withdraw from my review of Flag of convenience. Work pressures have suddenly gone through the roof and I no longer have time to look at the article. I have requested a second opinion at WP:GAN. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 19:38, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

OK, well thanks for all your work on it. Who knows, if you come back in a month or two, it'll probably still be there. :) Cheers. Haus^Talk 10:53, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Pass Flag of convenience

Congrats! Sandman888 (talk) ^{Latest PR} 12:08, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a million for swooping in and taking over! Haus^Talk 14:13, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for MV Geysir

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The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

MV Mariam

What name was she launched under? Needs an entry on List of ship launches in 1982. Mjroots (talk) 20:00, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, Junia Star or Jounieh Star. The former gets more ghits. I've got a feeling there's more info on it at turkloydu.org, but can't seem to navigate to it yet. Cheers. Haus^Talk 20:03, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm seeing some info that makes me think that the news reports are wrong, but I don't think I can untangle it in one sitting. Haus^Talk 20:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC) Probably true, but not from a RS: "Fergün Express III (built as the Venture 84 in 1982, from 1983 to 1998 she was Emeraude’s Trident/Trident III)" Haus^Talk 21:09, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Note to self, or anybody interested in following up. The ship was most likely: "Westamaran ...#W95... purchased in 1996 from French operator Emeraude Lines which had operated the vessel between France and the Channel Islands since 1983. The catamaran seats 250 passengers and has a service speed of 29 knots."^[1] ...build name "Trident" soon renamed to "Trident 3".Haus^Talk 22:03, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I'd love to be in on that DYK. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 13:26, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Running relief supplies instead of armaments-- yes, you can put my name to that. Thanks.Djembayz (talk) 17:00, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I'm more-or-less agnostic on the politics of the matter. The interesting bit to me is that it's possible to meet WP:N on a random 90-ft Turkish catamaran. :) Haus^Talk 18:03, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

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