User talk:JimboBuckets99
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Reformulated:
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- ^ I'm not saying that you do, but if...
- @Tgeorgescu: what's the difference between subjective beliefs and statements masquerading as subjective beliefs — Preceding unsigned comment added by JimboBuckets99 (talk • contribs)
- It is not my task to give you a crash course in epistemology. Your choice is clear: WP:CITE WP:RS from mainstream Bible scholarship or be gone from Darius the Mede. To put it bluntly, the historicity of DtM is dead in the water in the mainstream academia, was so for a long time, and it is unlikely to change in the future. But you would not know that unless you read mainstream Bible scholarship, which I'm afraid you don't, or you even try to bash it. Tgeorgescu (talk) 15:05, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
No original research of Ancient or Medieval sources
[edit]Please read Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 244#Gospel of John. Read it slowly and carefully and you'll find out why is it of application. If WP:CHOPSY say that the Bible is wrong something, so says Wikipedia. WP:EXTRAORDINARY applies to giving the lie to those universities, especially when they all toe the same line. I oppose WP:PROFRINGE in our articles. You may read the full rationale at WP:NOBIGOTS.
For Wikipedia, WP:FRINGE is what WP:CHOPSY say it's fringe, not what the Christian Church says it's fringe.
Ancient documents and artifacts referring to the Bible may only be analyzed by mainstream Bible scholars (usually full professors from reputable, mainstream universities), as far as Wikipedia is concerned. Your own analysis is unwanted, also, my own analysis is unwanted, and so on, this applies to each and every editor. Wikipedia is not a website for ventilating our own personal opinions.
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Original research and original synthesis are prohibited in all their forms as a matter of website policy. Repeated trespassers of such rule will be blocked by website administrators.
Being a Wikipedian means you are a volunteer, not that you are free to write whatever you please. See WP:NOTFREESPEECH and WP:FREE. Same as K12 teachers, Wikipedians don't have academic freedom. Tgeorgescu (talk) 16 March 2021 00:52:33 (UTC)
ANI notice
[edit] There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Tgeorgescu (talk) 00:05, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Please see WP:UBCR and act accordingly. Tgeorgescu (talk) 00:30, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- To be clear, JimboBuckets99, you should remove the userboxes from your user page that attack certain groups and viewpoints, as they violate Wikipedia's userbox content restrictions (
Userboxes must not be inflammatory or substantially divisive
). ― Tartan357 Talk 00:39, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
MfD nomination of User:JimboBuckets99/Userboxes/Userbox Name
[edit] User:JimboBuckets99/Userboxes/Userbox Name, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:JimboBuckets99/Userboxes/Userbox Name and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:JimboBuckets99/Userboxes/Userbox Name during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. ― Tartan357 Talk 01:16, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
The art of graceful statements
[edit]There are many graceful ways to express one's opinion or faith. Some examples would be: "This user is" or "identifies as" followed by their religion, in case you are Christian, other possible variants are "accepted Jesus in his heart", "Hopes to see paradise", etc. Even as an experienced editor, if I placed a user box on my page saying: "[I think] Christians are irrational", I'm sure someone would eventually criticize it (versus what I have basically expressing that I understand science is the best way to discover the world, something which many people accept today no matter their religious affiliation). I've seen some editors with boxes like "This user hates Islam" that was obviously unacceptable. They also were not on Wikipedia to improve the project, so were soon banned as such. —PaleoNeonate – 09:46, 22 April 2021 (UTC)