User talk:Jimmyg1982

Stanford Memorial Church

I re-removed the Arlis Perry subsection from Stanford Memorial Church, and i will explain why i did. First off you are entirely right that there should be a reference in both david berkowitz and dr bruce perry, as these two persons are directly related with her and the murder. However the Stanford Memorial Church is at best a very weak link to the subject of the article (Is it absolutely critical for the article where it happened? I think not). Such links - let alone complete sections - are therefore never included, as they should simply be discussed into the main article about the subject, in this case the Arlis Perry article . Take for example famous criminal Jack the Ripper. His article contains a link to London as that is where he operated, but the London article does not contain a link back to Jack the Ripper and nor should it. Excirial^{(Talk,Contribs)} 20:13, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jack the Ripper happened in Whitechapel. I bet ya there is something in the whitechapel article that mentions it. I believe the murder is a significant piece of the history of the church. it is definitly more important than what kind of organs they have. you might not think that the satanic ritual murder of a woman on the floor of a church is that important, but i think that if someone wants info on the church, they are going to find the info on Arlis Perry more interseting than the type of organs the church uses. Also London is one of the largest and most important cities in the world. You aren't going to have every murder that happened be on the London page. Stanford Memorial Church is a large church on a major college campus. Theres only been one murder in the church, it should be on the page...

thanks jimmy —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimmyg1982 (talk • contribs) 20:56, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good call(s)! However there is a small difference between those two articles: The Whitechapel includes a single line mentioning the murders, not an entire paragraph . Of course the murder is significant in the church history, but keep in mind that the article is about the Stanford Memorial Church, not the murder. Personally i would suggest cutting down the section to a one line mention as in the white chapel article; And keep the rest of the information in the Arlis Perry article.

Just see it like this: If someone wants to read more about the murder they will simply navigate to the article, where a full explanation can be found. But keeping an entire section in would be the same as adding a section about marriage into the article: While it is related (Church <-> Margiage) i think you will agree with me that simply linking wedding is enough, as opposed to adding a summary of what a wedding is. Excirial^{(Talk,Contribs)} 21:13, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jimmy, I'm glad this little article inspired you to create an account, but you are dangerously close to breaching 3RR. I recommend that you step away for at least a day. When you come back, I also recommend that you take Excirial's suggestions. I agree that the information about Perry is both interesting and necessary, but you don't state why and you don't cite any sources. Actually, one of the article's weakness (just one out of many) is that it lacks inline sources, which is why I added the tag. (I also made a few improvements, which includes using Excirial's ideas and putting the line about Perry in a more appropriate place.) This article needs a lot of work, so here's my third recommendation: instead of involving yourself in an edit war, make better use of your valuable time and work on improving the article. I'm working on some other projects at the current time, or I'd take it on myself. Maybe I will, later on. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 00:52, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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